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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 1947 the Army Air Force was

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announced that applying this - found

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under now in the possession of the army

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would change the game game-changer

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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network and kg ra the global rain

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your help to get to the year nineteen

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you are listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game-changing network

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are you doing

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today's Monday

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February 18th 2019 49 days in the new

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year just 316 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer networking tra the planet I

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am your host Jimmy Church what is

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very special guest kicking off the week

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tonight yes I see that Richard thank you

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Richard you just texted me wow that's

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that's that's very nice thank you

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Richard

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week we are going to do a full night of

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ET and UFO conversation all the breaking

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lots to discuss so Richard will be with

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us at the bottom of the hour tomorrow

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night David Icke is here man he has been

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working his way over to Australia via

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London left to Mexico today arrived in

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Los Angeles that's right I was speaking

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in Mexico doing some stuff down there

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and now he's here in LA and then he's on

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his way to Melbourne heading over to

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Australia it's got a bunch of stuff then

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he's coming back to Los Angeles because

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he's premiering his new movie yeah in

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case you didn't know there's a movie out

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now all right so that's what's going on

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with David Icke that'll be tomorrow and

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then Wednesday night you guys asked for

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it you got it

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it's the Q army with in the matrix and

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shady groove looking forward to this and

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that will be Wednesday night and then

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Thursday is bubble bum our 1,000th show

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our 1,000th show and that is Thursday

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night and it's on a fader night with

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made it we made it 1,000 shows and I

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time and this will do all of that stuff

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on Thursday but I remember I remember I

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day okay today's our 50th show okay

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today's our hundred the show I guess we

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doing the post out and and speaking

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pretty obvious it's uh it's a marathon

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it ain't a race it's just The Tortoise

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yeah yeah there are those days all right

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you know what to do

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go follow all of our social media head

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what lesson learned and I really

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appreciate that Melbourne okay Melbourne

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Jimmy turns radio calm getting that new

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getting close to launching that so thank

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at and Jimmy Church radio.com let's get

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crazy copyright dispute because I've

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opportunity Rover died it's over and now

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that it's gone what what is still

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running up there and there are a few

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things functional that make it still

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possible to study the red planet and the

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curiosity opportunities gone but the

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curiosity is is running and it can

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support the study of small life-forms

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scooped up from the Martian dirt they

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can also drill into rocks curiosity has

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a knob board laboratory that can

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actually determine chemical building

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blocks and with the the secrecy of the

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kind of weird that but but when are we

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going to Mars when are we going to Mars

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Mars which is absolutely incredible and

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in a weird way when you watch all of the

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whole water aspect of it I can't say

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anything the whole water aspect of it is

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let's let's move on here now this week

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this week this weekend is the conscious

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life Expo right here in Los Angeles at

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the LAX Hilton it's February 22nd

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through the 25th this year we are

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celebrating the 50th anniversary of

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Chariots of the Gods with Erich von

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däniken and I'll be hosting the panel

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with Eric that'll be Friday night and on

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that panel is Linda Moulton Howe Jays

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Martell Billy Carson and rabbi ariel bar

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suck that is Friday night Saturday all

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kinds of fun stuff going on all day long

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George's got is his meet and greet party

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that he's doing in his award ceremony

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doing there so come and hang out with us

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okay we've got a great booth on the

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representing some of our sponsors here

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come and hang out with us it's gonna be

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a great great weekend and you know

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Thursday night we're celebrating our

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thousandth show right and then we just

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go straight into the weekend come and

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schedule is right there and click on the

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just go straight to conscious life Expo

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and after this week I'll be saying we

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have over 1,000 shows where did I get

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t-shirt you guys notice that it says at

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the bottom hide-and-seek world champion

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it's a that was sent in from a fader not

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they I don't know I don't know but it

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was sent in to me from a fate or not

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who's probably listening now I got this

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last year so but that's where I got it I

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wish I could tell you that there are

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more I cannot yeah but I'll be seeing

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1,000 with our podcast also you can

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become a fader not in our membership

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section on Jimmy Church radio.com I just

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got news something for some reason one

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of our links are broken to new manna and

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thank you

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of listeners emailed us and let us know

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we've just contacted them and we'll get

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that fixed we don't know what's going on

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happy birthday to today man I can't stop

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drinking this River moon coffee yeah

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just I cannot stop drinking it there's a

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flavor there's a thing it's um so good I

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drink it every day it's just amazing

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let's get this show crackin happy

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birthday to today John Travolta is 65

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Matt Dillon today is 55 Molly Ringwald

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today is 51 dr. Dre today is 54 and last

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but not least Yoko Ono Yoko Ono today is

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86 86 is Yoko a billionaire how did they

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divide that you know and you know with

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the money and yeah whenever Yoko's a

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billionaire our dead guys birthday today

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is enzo ferrari 1898 to 1988 died at the

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age of 90 and pretty much I'm gonna say

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this that the only only the designer

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builder and visionary that created the

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best car on the planet you know that's

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who he is

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period the 1958 are any ferrari by the

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way but you can pretty much say that the

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1958 testa Rossa 250 TR may be the most

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perfect thing ever in the history of

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everything the most perfect pleasing

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thing ever designed happens to be a car

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happens to be a pretty pretty cool 12

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cylinder car too as well happy birthday

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Enzo Ferrari on the stay in history OTD

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1930 Pluto the on-again-off-again planet

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is discovered at the Lowell Observatory

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in Flagstaff Arizona by astronomer Clyde

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bah on this day in 1930 fader fact in

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1994 17 year-old David Hahn built a

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nuclear reactor in his mother's backyard

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and he irradiated his house and the

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entire neighborhood took everybody down

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with him he wrote letters posing as a

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high school physics teacher calling

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himself professor Hahn and tricked

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various nuclear agency officials to

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provide him with vital information

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related to nuclear reactors and that is

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your fate or fact tonight very special

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guest Richard Dolan is here full night

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of ET and UFO conversation dead ahead

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tomorrow

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it is David Icke Wednesday night the Q

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army we're gonna have in the matrix and

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shady groove here with us Thursday is

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our 1,000th show and it's not a fader

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night no less and so we're gonna have

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open lines all night long few special

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guests are gonna stop by and hang out

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and it's just a celebration for all of

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you all right

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very very special things okay and that

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will be Thursday night so that's our

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week and then Thursday night I guess we

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head down to the LAX Hilton and we will

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be there all weekend all right now

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why why do I drink River moon coffee

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take a sip so loudly at this point of

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the show when I start my rant because my

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brain is my brain knows the happiness

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that the rant is going to give me giving

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to you and it starts with that and just

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all of those wonderful chemicals kick

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off of my head and the only way to make

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myself fully happy fully engaging I know

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what's about to happen here I know

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what's about to happen here you you know

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what's about to happen right so there

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you go

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so why do

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of us just well why do some of us just

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believe just about anything you ever

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asked yourself that today I watched a

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documentary on flat earthers featuring

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mark Sargent Marquez on this show a

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couple of years ago I'm pretty pretty

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popular show a couple years ago and

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marks a good guy I think it comes across

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pretty cool in this documentary and

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although it's promoting the flat earth

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movement that's its intention it points

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out a few glaring things and when you

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watch the documentary it gets really

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really interesting and one of the things

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that they point out which is the flaw of

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the flat earthers is that if you believe

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in one conspiracy you must believe them

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all and Mark said at the beginning of

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this he said well you know I I didn't

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you know and his mom is there but you

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know he didn't believe in every

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conspiracy and he didn't want to jump

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you know but he was studying some of

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them this and I'm this and he gets too

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flattered that we didn't want to go

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there but you know what he's a truther

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and and he's a b'lieve you know so he

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went right there and ended up you know

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and that's one of the things that

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bothers me about this community because

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I have actually gotten email that says

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exactly that Church you're either all in

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or you're not either you are with this

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or you are not and that goes down the

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line because I've made my comments and

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stood my ground on uncertain certain

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things like 9/11 or Sandy Hook or mass

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shootings or or or or you know there's

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plenty of things out there that I just

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back up and go no you know no no no

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there are enough conspiracies out there

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that

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and one of those things because I didn't

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jump on the Flat Earth bandwagon look

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the little bandwagon that they had it's

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actually very very simple for those out

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there and with this show most most

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thought that flat earth right earth was

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history flat earth space right the big

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lie

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going back centuries and and all of this

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at that that's the perfect thing for me

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to go all in on and there was I if there

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was one thing I mean just one thing just

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one one thing that the flat earthers

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could could prove I mean out-and-out

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prove then you know could but but there

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isn't there isn't even one thing it's

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not about oh you can see a city off in

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the distance look you know it's there

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it's supposed to be on the other stop

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just stop it's not scientific it's

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nothing okay

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that's nothing but anyway not to not to

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dwell on this but then there is the the

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truth or movement and how they in in

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this documentary start to talk about the

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truth or movement and there was a couple

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of moments where you know I think they

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had a psychiatrist on from UCLA or

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something where they said look you know

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the truth or movement and this is where

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I get angry and it's the flat earthers

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fault and and in some cases the truth or

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movements fault is that you take

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somebody that's already on the fringe of

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society right and then you just force

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them to go all in on something like

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flatter if there's something else and

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the next thing you know they're out

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they're out they lose their friends and

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their family and everything else for the

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belief in what you know and what

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00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:21,940
where what is it that you gain in in

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convincing somebody about Flat Earth

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when everybody knows in the flatter of

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community that the earth isn't flat

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everybody knows everybody in every flat

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earther knows that the earth is not flat

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the reason why the flat earthers and the

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dedicated ones and that includes mark

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Sargent anybody else out there that talk

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about it is all they are trying to do is

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debate that's it and you know how it is

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when you debate okay you've got this

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00:25:00,880 --> 00:24:58,340
side you've got this side you flip a

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coin okay boom okay you got this subject

459
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:02,510
you got this subject and you see who

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wins and that's all that's going on here

461
00:25:10,930 --> 00:25:06,350
with the Flat Earth because we all know

462
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that it's round right he but mark also

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says in the film that the flat earthers

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have blown past scientists they've

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proven everybody in government and well

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anything that ever was literally I think

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this is how he says it and that the

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movement is huge and then they go around

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and they show the meetups and they have

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this room for this Meetup

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it's like 10 people sitting there with

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with 50 empty chairs and then they have

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their Flat Earth conference again I'm

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not complaining here what I'm saying is

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if you are going to certain things

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because the conference was was small it

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was tiny if you're gonna talk about the

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big Flat Earth conference we're all

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gonna go and that's the end of the film

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that's the climate if that's what you're

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gonna do you're gonna put that in this

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documentary you need to make sure that

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there are thousands and thousands of

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people there this groundswell of a

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movement that dozens of people and

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there's a big difference there you know

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and showing the empty meetups and then

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it kind of takes the air out of

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everything else that is stated in this

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video you know and I just I don't

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understand how how somebody gets bought

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into the belief of Flat Earth and this

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is

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okay all right all right I'm trying to

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be kind here I don't think that the flat

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earthers themselves believe that the

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earth is flat but when you turn around

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and you pick on somebody that is on the

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fringe and they are sitting here this

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documentary talking about I've lost my

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family I lost my wife I lost my job my

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kids won't speak to me I don't have any

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00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:53,550
friends anymore over Flat Earth you know

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and there needs to be a little bit of

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responsibility there I would think

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00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:02,160
all right that's a dangerous zone it's

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another thing to discuss the UFO topic

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00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:07,920
when we see strange things going on in

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the sky

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all right that's that's that's that's

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different and that's a tangible

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difference you know where science is

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00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:17,850
trying to make contact and we have fast

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radio bursts I was just talking about

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curiosity and trying to figure out

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what's going on on Mars that's that's

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00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:27,630
what we are doing now we are searching

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for this and going for these answers

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with photo with the flat-earthers

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people men women have died and

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sacrificed their lives for heresy and

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other things gone to prison burned at

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the stake heads chopped off to prove

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00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:49,970
these things and and did so successfully

525
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:55,170
that the year of his round it's really a

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00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,330
strange thing all right all right

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00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:00,000
why do i why do people do it so go and

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00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:01,530
check out the documentary I think it's

529
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:04,680
called it could be wrong under the curve

530
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:07,970
I think that might be it under the curve

531
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,610
just look up this Google search that and

532
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:12,960
you'll find it tonight

533
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:16,620
it's Richard bleep and Dolan he is here

534
00:28:22,190 --> 00:28:20,400
and I am happy okay I'm gonna be right

535
00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:22,200
back after this short break with Richard

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00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:25,790
Dolan and tomorrow it is David Icke

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00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:29,220
Wednesday it is the Q Army within the

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matrix and Shady groove and then of

539
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course Thursday is our 1,000th show and

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I'll be right back after this short

541
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break with our guest Richard Dolan stay

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I am your host Jimmy Church tonight

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Richard Dolan is here

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through I don't have to worry about this

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he's on with us tonight

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at the conscious life Expo Richard Dolan

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is one of the world's leading

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researchers and writers on the subject

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of UFOs and believes that they

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constitute the greatest mystery of our

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time Richard completed his graduate work

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at the University of Rochester where he

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studied the US cold war strategy

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European history and international

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diplomacy but before that he has studied

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at Alfred University an Oxford

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University and had been a finalist for

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Rhodes Scholarship he is the author of

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UFOs in the national security state he

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co-authored that with Bryce is able ad

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after disclosure and his latest book is

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UFOs in the 21st century mine of course

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he is a radio show host as well with the

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Richard Dolan show right here on kgr a

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frequent guest with me over on coast to

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coast am he was just out with George a

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couple of nights ago and he's currently

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featured on several television series

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and documentaries including ancient

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aliens in addition to his research

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Richards company Richard Dolan press

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actively publishes innovative books by

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authors from around the world tonight we

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are going to discuss everything ET and

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UFO that is currently breaking news for

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our community I would like to welcome

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back to fade to black

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Richard bleep and Dolan Richard good

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evening how are you hi Jimmy good to be

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on here tonight yes it is good to be on

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here tonight

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and okay Richard for this for this

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conversation to proceed you must answer

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three questions hmm okay I thought it

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was gonna be one question no doughnut

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read I'm giving you three inform exactly

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that I gotta catch you off guard okay

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first question what is your name my my

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full name my my name is Richard your

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name is correct okay that one next

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question I knew I could get that one

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what is your favorite what is your

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favorite color Jamie I'm 56 years old we

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don't have favorite colors and it's aged

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this is not a thing

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third question yes we had agreed on a

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subject for tonight's show

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and today you changed your mind why we

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were going to talk about some the the a

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controversial subject in our field UFO

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always had this controversial subject

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there's always drama and in this case

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there's as many people know a bit of

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very sordid drama that has enveloped

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this field indirectly affected myself I

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suppose but I don't really consider

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myself at the center of this and you

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know I chatted with you over the last

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week or so about some of these

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developments I know you've talked about

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it indirectly you've been pretty pretty

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vague about it if I may say and I

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wondered how much we wanted to get into

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this and I really thought it would be a

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thing to do and here's what I feel it's

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such a it's such a bad low C D awful

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thing and I don't I don't want to throw

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myself into it like it could very well

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be the case that in the future this is

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something you and I discuss but I would

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just say look if people are really

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interested in finding out what the

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latest scandal is developing go to

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there's a number of sites out there

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places I would say project Avalon

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website is probably the

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best for up-to-date analysis on some of

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the things that are going on in this

729
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field and if you know what I'm talking

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about then you know what I am talking

731
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about and if you don't know what I'm

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talking about will go to Avalon and

733
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you'll find out for right now I want to

734
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:23,710
leave it at that yeah all of you know

735
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you know what I appreciate Avalon about

736
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there it's my biggest support group you

737
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know those guys over there and gals they

738
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just they just love this show and so

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everybody they've been around for a long

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time and I will just say they have for

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years and years had many of the most

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intelligent insightful goodwill analysts

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that are out there and people who I

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think genuinely care about the integrity

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of UFOs and everything related to the

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research in that field so and they're on

747
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top of a lot of this and I I support

748
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what they do so for right now rather

749
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than honestly because one of the things

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that I have tried I haven't always

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succeeded but I have tried to do in my

752
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:08,020
years involved in the public realm is to

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avoid whether they or you know the

754
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old-fashioned flame wars from the early

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internet or any of the other kinds of

756
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fights that are going on because the

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00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:19,300
thing is they're very seductive at first

758
00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:21,130
when you want to get involved and sling

759
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it out with somebody but it's a it's a

760
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waste of time and it's almost always

761
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demeaning to anyone who gets involved in

762
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it so until it becomes a necessary thing

763
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:34,990
for me to speak about this I think I've

764
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:37,210
really thought about this a lot and I've

765
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decided at least for now I don't want to

766
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:40,480
make a major statement about it and

767
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:42,310
rather just let things play out and see

768
00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:44,740
where it happens more than there are

769
00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:46,420
more than enough people right now

770
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:51,160
digging researching exposing and there

771
00:39:57,930 --> 00:39:53,980
is no question from the little that I

772
00:40:01,020 --> 00:39:57,940
know that there is much more that will

773
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:01,030
be revealed and my attitude is let it

774
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:03,640
all come out that's it okay all right

775
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:07,650
well said Richard you know I remember

776
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:11,650
this is this goes back many years with

777
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:13,450
you and I but when I started to

778
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:15,520
introduce you at different conferences

779
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:20,710
and I would always say that one of the

780
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:23,830
things well I said it once and then I

781
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:25,150
ended up saying it every time I've

782
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:28,690
introduced you that you represent this

783
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:33,520
community in such a an honest pragmatic

784
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:37,360
way that we should all be proud this

785
00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:39,700
crazy community of ours that we've got

786
00:40:45,150 --> 00:40:42,100
somebody like you standing out in front

787
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:45,160
of all of us and and what you just said

788
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:47,410
right there is about as as well-spoken

789
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:50,830
as it can be so I thank you for that and

790
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:53,170
let's move on all right yeah let's move

791
00:40:57,690 --> 00:40:55,330
on if we need to we'll come back to it

792
00:41:00,330 --> 00:40:57,700
yeah yeah there you go there you go now

793
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:00,340
there's so much to discuss tonight and

794
00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:01,630
now we had nothing else to talk about

795
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:06,190
yeah you know what moving on thank you

796
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:07,990
thank you for being here tonight Richard

797
00:41:22,050 --> 00:41:16,270
and give my best to Tracy that's hey

798
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:22,060
Tracy the the truth or movement right

799
00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:25,690
the conspiracy movement out there in my

800
00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:28,750
little opening rant tonight one of the

801
00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:31,960
thick mist Oh unison okay well you know

802
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:35,350
in a nutshell it's this it seems that if

803
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:37,090
you are going to be part of the truth or

804
00:41:40,590 --> 00:41:38,350
movement or you're gonna be part of the

805
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:40,600
conspiracy movement and you are either

806
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:43,630
all in or not that you are not entitled

807
00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:46,750
to not believe in every single

808
00:41:53,250 --> 00:41:48,790
conspiracy that comes down the pike and

809
00:41:55,650 --> 00:41:53,260
if you if you dare you know not you know

810
00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:55,660
just jump on every single thing that

811
00:41:58,859 --> 00:41:57,220
comes down the road and every single

812
00:42:00,270 --> 00:41:58,869
breaking is and everything is a false

813
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:00,280
flag and everything is this and

814
00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:03,010
everything you know if you don't you're

815
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:04,840
like banished right and and you get

816
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:07,060
criticized for it and I don't get it and

817
00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:10,960
one of the one of the problems that I

818
00:42:16,050 --> 00:42:13,270
have with that is that we're already

819
00:42:17,849 --> 00:42:16,060
dealing with some pretty fantastical

820
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:17,859
subjects that we're trying to get the

821
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:18,850
rest of the world

822
00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:21,190
up their eyes too and then you bring in

823
00:42:25,770 --> 00:42:23,500
some of this other stuff and I think

824
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:25,780
it's proper to put your foot down and go

825
00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:29,230
no well why I agree with this what what

826
00:42:35,820 --> 00:42:31,870
we don't need what we absolutely never

827
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:35,830
need are zealots in this field all right

828
00:42:40,070 --> 00:42:38,170
so what we it's actually the worst thing

829
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:40,080
for us because as you just were saying

830
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,150
the things that we are studying are on

831
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:45,280
the fringe both both politically and

832
00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:48,430
scientifically and psychologically for

833
00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:50,350
that matter these are not these are not

834
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:51,940
ordinary things that we're looking into

835
00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:53,770
the UFO subject and everything connected

836
00:42:58,740 --> 00:42:56,040
with it the presence of other

837
00:43:02,610 --> 00:42:58,750
intelligences intelligent beings that

838
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:02,620
are not from our civilization that's as

839
00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:04,690
out there as it gets and so what it

840
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:07,240
requires is not the mindset of a zealot

841
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:10,570
not the mindset of someone who is you

842
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:12,610
know ready to banish or shun or a gang

843
00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:14,830
stalk or intimidate those they disagree

844
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:18,070
with that's the last thing we need what

845
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:24,370
we require is actually calm ability to

846
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:26,710
look at all different possibilities and

847
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:29,920
and with whole judgments for as long as

848
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:31,930
we can because this is a complicated

849
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:36,460
subject it's not simple so i I've always

850
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:39,760
I fear zealots and I think that the

851
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:42,550
imposition and any any people come into

852
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:47,170
this field and act as though they've got

853
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:49,270
every single thing figured out like

854
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:50,680
those are the most dangerous people

855
00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:52,030
because they don't have it all figured

856
00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:54,340
out none of us do yeah yeah and I'm

857
00:43:59,580 --> 00:43:56,980
going I'm not necessarily going in that

858
00:44:03,510 --> 00:43:59,590
direction but although I agree with you

859
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:03,520
of course but I'm referring to more

860
00:44:14,010 --> 00:44:09,520
direct things like that if you know

861
00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:14,020
Sandy Hook or 9/11 or or the Apollo moon

862
00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:17,320
missions or the hoax or two to

863
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:19,840
black-budget programs to the Kennedy

864
00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:22,210
assassination and you can just you know

865
00:44:28,020 --> 00:44:25,630
a long list of things that to be a

866
00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:28,030
member of this community you have to put

867
00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:30,390
a check mark by all of them and I

868
00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:33,950
why is it that some people literally

869
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:37,350
believe in every single conspiracy that

870
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,260
comes along like Flat Earth out throw

871
00:44:44,780 --> 00:44:42,000
Flat Earth in there for if there's

872
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:44,790
another perfect example yeah in in my

873
00:44:50,540 --> 00:44:46,790
office in our room here we've got a

874
00:44:52,580 --> 00:44:50,550
merkin der makanda Mercator projection

875
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:52,590
of the earth it was called Mercator

876
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:54,930
Mercator projection and it's

877
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,960
artistically done and when I do

878
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,000
livestream people can see it behind me

879
00:45:04,670 --> 00:45:02,640
and Tracy and I will tell you there's

880
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:04,680
always people to say ah Dolan must

881
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:06,270
believe in the flat earth there's a flat

882
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:10,830
earth projection there out there I guess

883
00:45:16,310 --> 00:45:12,570
what I would say to answer your question

884
00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:16,320
is the it's very easy like once you

885
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:18,870
realize that some one very very big

886
00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:20,970
thing that you grew up believing in is

887
00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:24,870
is untrue or a lie like UFOs don't don't

888
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:26,430
exist and then you realize oh wow they

889
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:29,700
actually do exist or you get into the

890
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:33,890
truth of other types of conspiratorial

891
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:37,140
events which there are conspiracies

892
00:45:41,180 --> 00:45:38,430
that's actually the nature of

893
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:41,190
organizational behavior or organizations

894
00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:43,170
are hierarchical they're competitive

895
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:45,270
they compete with other organizations in

896
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:47,400
order to get over on those other

897
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:49,170
organizations they will act in ways that

898
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:51,710
are secretive that is by its very nature

899
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:55,370
secrecy and conspiracy are an inherent

900
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,690
element of organizational behavior but

901
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,460
and so when you start realizing that

902
00:46:02,750 --> 00:46:00,960
there are different conspiracies you

903
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:02,760
some people will become disillusioned

904
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:06,180
and sometimes the problem is when you

905
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:07,680
realize one thing is wrong and another

906
00:46:11,810 --> 00:46:09,510
thing is wrong that you grow up with you

907
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:11,820
you tend some people might throw

908
00:46:18,220 --> 00:46:13,740
everything out and say it's all a lie

909
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:18,230
but the thing is for every single bit of

910
00:46:23,810 --> 00:46:20,610
you know element where we challenge

911
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:23,820
official narratives I would just argue

912
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:25,770
we need to be evidence-based at all

913
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,740
times always evidence-based so I'm

914
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:30,480
always wanting to ask like why does

915
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:32,610
someone believe what they believe it's

916
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,020
it's fine to believe something different

917
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:37,440
we all have different opinions on things

918
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:38,850
but the question is what are those

919
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:41,610
opinions based on and it's incumbent

920
00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:45,580
upon someone who's challenged

921
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:47,740
what the rest of the world believes to

922
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:49,870
tell them why they believe otherwise and

923
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:52,330
you and you can't just say trust me this

924
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:54,130
is my secret inside information

925
00:46:59,970 --> 00:46:56,890
no that's a fail you've got to be able

926
00:47:01,650 --> 00:46:59,980
to present a case to other people who

927
00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:01,660
are skeptical of what you have to say

928
00:47:06,570 --> 00:47:04,360
and if you can't do it then get out of

929
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:06,580
the way no you don't waste anyone's time

930
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:08,710
like provide evidence

931
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:11,890
well usually simple you studied cold war

932
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:14,430
strategy world history European history

933
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:18,670
politics this is this is part of what

934
00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:21,420
makes you you know Richard Dolan I

935
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:25,180
equate things to like the TV series

936
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:27,820
house of cards right with with Kevin

937
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:28,240
Spacey

938
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:32,890
yeah and as twisted as that was and and

939
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:37,240
it got dark and it got twisted I would

940
00:47:46,170 --> 00:47:40,330
venture to say it wasn't twisted enough

941
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:46,180
right exactly and and and so if if it

942
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:49,930
was ever revealed about that can the

943
00:47:56,610 --> 00:47:54,160
day-to-day conspiratorial operations of

944
00:48:00,330 --> 00:47:56,620
Washington DC and the Pentagon in the

945
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:00,340
CIA and the NSA what would society do

946
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:02,440
would they physically get ill and throw

947
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:06,400
up and puke or would they go ah well

948
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:09,010
whatever you know that's that's the

949
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:10,690
danger that one answer to that I think

950
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:12,910
some people would be very upset once

951
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:14,530
things are out in the open it's almost

952
00:48:19,470 --> 00:48:16,330
like the Emperor's New Clothes analogy

953
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:19,480
like I think a lot of people know that

954
00:48:23,490 --> 00:48:22,330
there's something very very very bad if

955
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:23,500
everything that's going on in Washington

956
00:48:30,570 --> 00:48:26,880
they kind of know but it's not

957
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:30,580
necessarily openly confirmed in all of

958
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:33,550
the depths of what is happening so if if

959
00:48:37,860 --> 00:48:36,010
all of that were to come out in other

960
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:37,870
words you know we're not Luke Skywalker

961
00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:40,150
we are Darth Vader essentially what if

962
00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:42,280
that were to fully come out the way that

963
00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:44,740
I believe it is yes that would be a very

964
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:47,560
big problem for some people others you

965
00:48:50,310 --> 00:48:48,910
know there's a lot of jaded people out

966
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:50,320
there already so I don't I don't know

967
00:48:54,210 --> 00:48:52,630
how it would break down but definitely

968
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,220
there would be some shock to some people

969
00:48:59,880 --> 00:48:56,480
yeah I totally agree with that and

970
00:49:04,030 --> 00:48:59,890
there we have been so desensitized with

971
00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:04,040
different movies about the CIA or Jason

972
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:06,020
Bourne or different political thing you

973
00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:08,750
know and presidents fallen and replace

974
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:11,270
or assassin how you know we it is gone

975
00:49:15,730 --> 00:49:12,860
on and gone on for so long that just

976
00:49:17,740 --> 00:49:15,740
maybe we know that that kind of stuff is

977
00:49:20,020 --> 00:49:17,750
going on in and though it wouldn't be so

978
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:20,030
much of a shock to the system but it's

979
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:23,210
certainly conspiracy based and it's what

980
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:25,490
some of us out here have been on about

981
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:27,350
you've been talking about false flags

982
00:49:34,210 --> 00:49:30,350
for a very very very long time and false

983
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:34,220
flags are it's a method of operation

984
00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:36,350
it's nothing different than that it's

985
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:38,660
just what they do I wouldn't doubt if

986
00:49:45,220 --> 00:49:41,030
there's a false Flags 101 preparatory

987
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:45,230
course in the defense in the defense

988
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:48,410
school actually just learning about this

989
00:49:52,810 --> 00:49:50,690
not even a week or two ago but the

990
00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:52,820
United States actually holds what you

991
00:49:57,250 --> 00:49:54,550
can call false flag classes

992
00:50:00,250 --> 00:49:57,260
internationally they are training young

993
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:00,260
idealistic fanatical revolutionaries in

994
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,850
in nations around the world and they're

995
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:03,680
teaching them how to disrupt societies

996
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:05,930
so this is something you know basically

997
00:50:10,930 --> 00:50:07,790
had a stage what was once called a color

998
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:10,940
revolution back in the early 21st

999
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:14,210
century certain Eastern European nations

1000
00:50:21,370 --> 00:50:18,740
Kyrgyzstan Ukraine had what were billed

1001
00:50:23,260 --> 00:50:21,380
as peaceful revolutions against you know

1002
00:50:24,550 --> 00:50:23,270
corrupted despotic powers this is what

1003
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,560
the US is trying to do right now in

1004
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,720
Venezuela that's right that's right and

1005
00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:29,680
you know you you bring in literally a

1006
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:33,140
puppet that was trained by your people

1007
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:34,610
and that's the case right now the guy

1008
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:36,530
dough in Venezuela but it's happening

1009
00:50:43,690 --> 00:50:39,530
and it's happened in other nations and

1010
00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:43,700
what the u.s. u.s. money does through

1011
00:50:48,190 --> 00:50:46,220
the u.s. National Endowment for

1012
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:48,200
democracy anyd which was founded in the

1013
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:50,570
1980s and they basically took over the

1014
00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:52,670
job what the CIA used to do which is

1015
00:50:58,210 --> 00:50:54,950
regime change but they they're smarter

1016
00:51:00,960 --> 00:50:58,220
about it so they because everything's

1017
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,970
done through now cut outs they'll fund

1018
00:51:04,510 --> 00:51:03,040
international nongovernmental

1019
00:51:06,370 --> 00:51:04,520
organizations and all these different

1020
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,380
countries and throw huge amounts of

1021
00:51:10,210 --> 00:51:08,720
money there to disrupt the society to

1022
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,220
create leadership and that's

1023
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:12,800
and get the foot soldiers and to create

1024
00:51:17,530 --> 00:51:15,050
the the platforms and the banners and

1025
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:17,540
the signage and the social media and all

1026
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:19,910
that you create something out of nothing

1027
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:22,250
essentially or you find an issue that is

1028
00:51:27,390 --> 00:51:25,070
a legitimate issue but you just work it

1029
00:51:29,590 --> 00:51:27,400
and work it and work it and work it and

1030
00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:29,600
next thing you know you got a revolution

1031
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:31,640
on your hands and a pro-western

1032
00:51:36,340 --> 00:51:34,250
government is installed and the IMF is

1033
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:36,350
happy so that's that's what the u.s. is

1034
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:38,440
master at and they actually do have

1035
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:41,900
classes actual literal sit-down aniseed

1036
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:43,970
classes where someone's instructing on

1037
00:51:50,290 --> 00:51:48,110
how you do this down when I was living

1038
00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:50,300
in Panama on the Canal Zone right at

1039
00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:52,460
Fort Clayton and you can look this up

1040
00:51:58,300 --> 00:51:54,740
everybody don't don't take my word for

1041
00:52:00,430 --> 00:51:58,310
it at Fort Clayton there's I don't know

1042
00:52:02,410 --> 00:52:00,440
how many army and military bases marine

1043
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:02,420
and Naval Air Force I don't know how

1044
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:03,830
many were down there but I'm gonna say

1045
00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:06,890
thirty right and Panama that might be a

1046
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:08,540
pretty good number but anyway for

1047
00:52:12,310 --> 00:52:10,610
Clayton was one of the big ones and when

1048
00:52:14,050 --> 00:52:12,320
you first pulled in the gates at for

1049
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:14,060
Clayton they have this College there

1050
00:52:20,380 --> 00:52:18,650
with all these national flags out in

1051
00:52:23,860 --> 00:52:20,390
front right it's very you know it's very

1052
00:52:27,250 --> 00:52:23,870
regal and and I asked somebody one day I

1053
00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:27,260
said so what is that and this was the

1054
00:52:32,820 --> 00:52:31,160
answer and by the way at any time this

1055
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:32,830
particular place came up in discussion

1056
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:36,290
the same things were said about it which

1057
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:38,960
is this that is the school of the

1058
00:52:44,350 --> 00:52:41,690
Americas oh yeah oh really what is that

1059
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:44,360
that is where every dictator and

1060
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:46,670
military leader in Central and South

1061
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:49,730
America goes to school we train them and

1062
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:52,610
then they go and run a country that's

1063
00:52:58,030 --> 00:52:54,890
like what they head up to a Fort Benning

1064
00:52:59,770 --> 00:52:58,040
Georgia for additional training now the

1065
00:53:01,180 --> 00:52:59,780
most famous alums of people of the

1066
00:53:03,070 --> 00:53:01,190
Americas that's right that's where they

1067
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:03,080
have it now they closed it down in

1068
00:53:07,330 --> 00:53:05,570
Panama oh so they moved it to the United

1069
00:53:11,620 --> 00:53:07,340
States the School of the Americas but I

1070
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,630
was right there and so I would look at

1071
00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:13,040
it and every time that I brought it up

1072
00:53:18,130 --> 00:53:15,020
either with somebody in the military or

1073
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:18,140
or whatever my parents or friends other

1074
00:53:22,859 --> 00:53:21,010
friends whose parents were teaching the

1075
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:22,869
right it's all of you know millet the

1076
00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:25,570
Canal Zone it was the same thing that's

1077
00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:27,070
where we that's where we trained the

1078
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:34,390
dictators man this is an old old story

1079
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:36,910
and it goes so far back in American

1080
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history and it's not even the purpose of

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me talking about this with you isn't to

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trash the United States I mean it's just

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it is what it is right but but by

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avoiding these truths we're not helping

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ourselves by pretending you collect with

1086
00:53:55,650 --> 00:53:53,890
all of this nonsense and it is nonsense

1087
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about Russian meddling in our elections

1088
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:57,010
I mean we've been hearing about this for

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two years the thing that's really the

1090
00:54:02,550 --> 00:54:00,760
funniest about it is all the Pearl

1091
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clutching all the media people saying oh

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my goodness

1093
00:54:06,750 --> 00:54:04,869
they're meddling in our election when

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the United States that's what America

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does has always done always will do as

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long as it has the power to do it

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America there's none better there are no

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nations that can even remotely compete

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with America's ability to meddle in

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other nations electoral process and in

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their quote unquote democracy like

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that's what America does and whether

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00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:27,910
it's through School of the Americas

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00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:32,470
training dictators to engage in Coos and

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00:54:36,750 --> 00:54:35,170
repress their populations or now through

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00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:36,760
the National Endowment of democracy in

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:38,590
US aid and all of these State Department

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cutout organizations that throw money

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billions of dollars into foreign nations

1110
00:54:49,530 --> 00:54:46,359
to destabilize I mean what the United

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00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:49,540
States did to nations like Libya will

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00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:53,440
forever I know a great great black stain

1113
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:56,290
on American history and people really

1114
00:54:59,760 --> 00:54:58,450
need to understand the true history of

1115
00:55:01,530 --> 00:54:59,770
what happened what went down there and

1116
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:01,540
ditto with Syria and these are things

1117
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:04,330
that you know the sick of fant ik US

1118
00:55:09,210 --> 00:55:07,330
media which is totally owned by the

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00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:09,220
major corporate interests that are in

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00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:10,900
bed with the intelligence community they

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00:55:16,770 --> 00:55:13,090
will never ever speak honestly about

1122
00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:16,780
this and so for this reason you know

1123
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:19,150
whether you're from a fox land or MSNBC

1124
00:55:25,859 --> 00:55:23,530
land or CNN or whatever there are some

1125
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:25,869
variations in there yeah it's true but

1126
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:28,270
by and large all of these are corporate

1127
00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:30,310
established in bed with intelligence

1128
00:55:33,810 --> 00:55:32,440
organization type propaganda

1129
00:55:34,289 --> 00:55:33,820
organizations that's all they are they

1130
00:55:35,759 --> 00:55:34,299
just don't

1131
00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:35,769
began and it's no different by the way

1132
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:38,920
with BBC RT yeah yeah

1133
00:55:44,459 --> 00:55:42,729
Russia today home Han it's unbelievable

1134
00:55:45,779 --> 00:55:44,469
yeah well with RT I'm gonna just say

1135
00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:45,789
this right now I'm gonna defend them

1136
00:55:49,949 --> 00:55:47,109
because I at least don't feel my

1137
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:49,959
intelligence insulted when I read RT and

1138
00:55:55,499 --> 00:55:52,150
I'm gonna say this because right now CNN

1139
00:55:59,179 --> 00:55:55,509
just called out RT and had Facebook

1140
00:56:01,079 --> 00:55:59,189
basically sycophantic Li ban

1141
00:56:02,969 --> 00:56:01,089
associations on Facebook that were

1142
00:56:04,859 --> 00:56:02,979
supposedly funded by the Russian

1143
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:04,869
government and you know they don't

1144
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:06,249
follow that rule with any other

1145
00:56:10,289 --> 00:56:07,209
government they don't do that with

1146
00:56:11,999 --> 00:56:10,299
British or French or or Canadian news

1147
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:12,009
but they do it with with these which are

1148
00:56:16,019 --> 00:56:14,380
funded like the third or fourth

1149
00:56:18,299 --> 00:56:16,029
generation like they're not even funded

1150
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:18,309
directly by the Russian government so no

1151
00:56:23,669 --> 00:56:19,689
I would actually challenge you on that

1152
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:23,679
no no no no no III go to art artis my

1153
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:26,559
go-to site by the way okay let me be

1154
00:56:30,509 --> 00:56:27,910
very very clear

1155
00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:30,519
look there's no reporting on any

1156
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:32,380
mainstream media right now about what's

1157
00:56:36,809 --> 00:56:34,209
going on in Venezuela except for today

1158
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:36,819
that Trump spoke about it but for the

1159
00:56:41,939 --> 00:56:40,209
last month you've got to go to RT for

1160
00:56:43,319 --> 00:56:41,949
any updates on Venezuela I said I

1161
00:56:44,969 --> 00:56:43,329
thought you were lumping them in with

1162
00:56:47,009 --> 00:56:44,979
the others and I was gonna say no sorry

1163
00:56:49,979 --> 00:56:47,019
oh it's definitely Artie's still the

1164
00:56:51,329 --> 00:56:49,989
propaganda arm of Moscow that's you know

1165
00:56:52,589 --> 00:56:51,339
that's Putin's that here's here's a

1166
00:56:55,709 --> 00:56:52,599
difference all right you can actually

1167
00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:55,719
fact check them and you can act you can

1168
00:56:58,739 --> 00:56:57,160
get information that you can then

1169
00:57:00,509 --> 00:56:58,749
investigate you can do the same with CNN

1170
00:57:01,410 --> 00:57:00,519
of course but sure I do that every day

1171
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:01,420
right

1172
00:57:06,929 --> 00:57:04,390
I read CNN it's painful at times but I

1173
00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:06,939
read it every day but the thing is what

1174
00:57:13,049 --> 00:57:09,400
what you see is everyone's got their

1175
00:57:14,489 --> 00:57:13,059
spin Fox has got their spin MSNBC's got

1176
00:57:17,789 --> 00:57:14,499
their spin HuffPost got their spin

1177
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:17,799
Artie's got their spin all true but the

1178
00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:19,660
question is how much information are you

1179
00:57:23,579 --> 00:57:22,449
getting and I would suggest and I think

1180
00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:23,589
you're inclined to agree that you get

1181
00:57:29,729 --> 00:57:27,400
vastly more information on a wide array

1182
00:57:32,729 --> 00:57:29,739
of subjects with RT over any of the

1183
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:32,739
other u.s. Western groups you go head to

1184
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:34,689
head I would throw RT up against CNN

1185
00:57:40,739 --> 00:57:38,529
Plus Fox Plus MSNBC Plus wopo plus New

1186
00:57:42,479 --> 00:57:40,749
York Times RT I think would kick their

1187
00:57:43,769 --> 00:57:42,489
ass one side of the sidewalk and down

1188
00:57:45,419 --> 00:57:43,779
the other yeah you're right and the

1189
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:45,429
difference is we got to take a break a

1190
00:57:50,530 --> 00:57:46,970
break right here Richard at least

1191
00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:50,540
with our tea today they are reporting

1192
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:53,150
the news on the top half and then it's

1193
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:55,310
opinion pieces on the bottom where all

1194
00:58:00,130 --> 00:57:57,050
of the mainstream media Western

1195
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:00,140
mainstream media the main of the opinion

1196
00:58:04,660 --> 00:58:02,330
pieces are the headlines and they are

1197
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:04,670
stating that as news good point that's a

1198
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:06,290
really nation they have opinions on the

1199
00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:07,610
left and right of the spectrum by the

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00:58:11,620 --> 00:58:09,620
way they do they do they're pretty

1201
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:11,630
balanced no and a lot of a lot of

1202
00:58:15,460 --> 00:58:13,490
American writers on that on that side

1203
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:15,470
too as well let's uh let's take a break

1204
00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:16,970
right here our guest tonight Richard

1205
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:18,950
bleep in Dolan I am your host Jimmy

1206
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:20,810
Church now when we come back we're gonna

1207
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talk about some of that government money

1208
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:26,270
going into UFO programs of research

1209
00:58:30,070 --> 00:58:27,770
we're going to talk about all of that

1210
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when we come back it's fade to black I'm

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your to Beecher stay with us

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am your host Amy Church what a great

1322
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:15,970
night tonight Richard Dolan is here

1323
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tomorrow

1324
01:04:24,910 --> 01:04:21,770
it is David Icke I cannot wait for that

1325
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and Wednesday night we're gonna do Q

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haven't done a Q show here I'm fade to

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black I am Q curious with the Q R me in

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the matrix and shady groove are here on

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Wednesday and then Thursday night is our

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1,000th show think about that let's get

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back to Richard Richard 1000 shows my

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man yeah well done on that yeah you know

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speaking about something during the

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break well you you were you listening to

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me text during the break well of course

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okay go ahead I was thinking about the

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conversation that we were just having

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and here we are both talking about our

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tea and it's almost as if we're in an

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era now in 2019 where you really have to

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wonder like if you're a public person

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and you start saying things that are

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against the mainstream corporate

1344
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:20,030
narrative like is some something to come

1345
01:05:25,090 --> 01:05:21,680
back and bite you in the ass over it

1346
01:05:27,790 --> 01:05:25,100
I mean we're it's that bad in our

1347
01:05:29,830 --> 01:05:27,800
culture right now totally 100% it got me

1348
01:05:31,150 --> 01:05:29,840
thinking about it and and you know my

1349
01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:31,160
reaction was well the hell with that I

1350
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:32,870
don't really care I'm gonna say what I'm

1351
01:05:36,310 --> 01:05:34,310
going to say and and that's it I've

1352
01:05:40,510 --> 01:05:36,320
always been that way but nonetheless

1353
01:05:42,730 --> 01:05:40,520
there is a culture in our society now

1354
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:42,740
that it's spreading and everyone knows

1355
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:45,290
it everyone knows this is a case that is

1356
01:05:50,650 --> 01:05:46,880
a culture based on fear and intimidation

1357
01:05:53,290 --> 01:05:50,660
and silencing of alternate opinions and

1358
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:53,300
no one is immune to it and so even when

1359
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:56,240
we fight it we are aware that we're

1360
01:06:00,850 --> 01:05:58,880
fighting it and that's some we really we

1361
01:06:02,890 --> 01:06:00,860
have to defeat that that culture we've

1362
01:06:05,230 --> 01:06:02,900
got to defeat this attitude it is

1363
01:06:07,150 --> 01:06:05,240
encroaching a it's part of it as deep

1364
01:06:10,540 --> 01:06:07,160
platforming part of it as shaming part

1365
01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:10,550
of it is you know actually just

1366
01:06:15,940 --> 01:06:13,310
censoring as well and then attacking

1367
01:06:18,610 --> 01:06:15,950
but all of it is dangerous and and none

1368
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:18,620
of this was the world that you know

1369
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,810
anyone who's old enough knows like this

1370
01:06:23,810 --> 01:06:22,400
is not the world that many of us grew up

1371
01:06:27,410 --> 01:06:23,820
in but it's the world that's a

1372
01:06:30,050 --> 01:06:27,420
become and it's it's the opposite of

1373
01:06:32,030 --> 01:06:30,060
what we were taught right it's the

1374
01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:32,040
opposite of what we were taught and I'll

1375
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:33,870
give you a classic example and then

1376
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:35,970
we're gonna get on to UFOs we've got way

1377
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:37,980
too much to discuss tonight and I want

1378
01:06:43,130 --> 01:06:41,160
to get it all in but I'm gonna give the

1379
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:43,140
most classic example that I can give to

1380
01:06:49,550 --> 01:06:45,710
anybody right now and that is Alex Jones

1381
01:06:53,330 --> 01:06:49,560
now Alex Jones no matter what your

1382
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:53,340
opinion is of Alex that doesn't matter

1383
01:07:00,680 --> 01:06:55,290
this country was based on certain

1384
01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:00,690
principles alex was his own worst enemy

1385
01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:03,720
for sure you know he caught he knew the

1386
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:05,100
line that he wasn't supposed to cross

1387
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:07,770
and he crossed it there are when you're

1388
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:10,470
dealing with private companies like the

1389
01:07:15,980 --> 01:07:13,110
things in Silicon Valley that have their

1390
01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:15,990
requirements then you need to play the

1391
01:07:19,610 --> 01:07:18,030
game by their rules just like anything

1392
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:19,620
else you'd go into somebody else's house

1393
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:22,410
you know how to behave he pushed it but

1394
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:27,210
you don't systematically synchronize a

1395
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:29,970
deep platforming of somebody like that

1396
01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:34,770
you don't do it and the the fact that we

1397
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:38,430
all had to witness that was was shameful

1398
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:40,740
it was shameful and I'm not defending

1399
01:07:46,550 --> 01:07:44,850
Alex's things that he has said or done

1400
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:46,560
that's not what I'm saying

1401
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:48,930
but he has certainly has the right to a

1402
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,690
play within the rules and and be able to

1403
01:07:55,330 --> 01:07:53,520
speak and that I thought was just

1404
01:07:58,250 --> 01:07:55,340
vicious it's like the Salem witch trials

1405
01:08:01,220 --> 01:07:58,260
you know that's exactly what do you

1406
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:01,230
remember all of thee all of the things

1407
01:08:05,090 --> 01:08:03,450
that we use as our principles they

1408
01:08:08,030 --> 01:08:05,100
always go back to like the Salem witch

1409
01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:08,040
trials and and the lynchings and the

1410
01:08:12,740 --> 01:08:09,660
mobs and the torches and the pitchforks

1411
01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:12,750
and raiding somebody's house because of

1412
01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:15,270
an association you know it's like wait

1413
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:17,640
wait stop with that well they went after

1414
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:20,010
him because of so-called hate speech and

1415
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:22,170
then the whole Sandy Hook thing but I

1416
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:24,930
would just say I know some people aren't

1417
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:26,310
going to like this but I would maintain

1418
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:28,410
that hate speech is not a legitimate

1419
01:08:33,950 --> 01:08:31,440
legal concept and in the United States

1420
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:33,960
it still doesn't have as far as I know a

1421
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:35,970
formal legal status and it shouldn't

1422
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:37,650
other nations do have it

1423
01:08:42,530 --> 01:08:39,930
so by designating certain speech as

1424
01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:42,540
hateful you thereby legislate what

1425
01:08:45,770 --> 01:08:44,520
people are and are not allowed to say

1426
01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:45,780
and the problem with that as a

1427
01:08:50,270 --> 01:08:47,580
definition is that it's incredibly

1428
01:08:52,340 --> 01:08:50,280
flexible in plastic and pliable so it

1429
01:08:54,830 --> 01:08:52,350
can cut it can change this week hate

1430
01:08:56,750 --> 01:08:54,840
speech can be one thing next month it

1431
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:56,760
can be something else that's the problem

1432
01:09:02,060 --> 01:08:59,160
with it it's an utterly fluid concept

1433
01:09:03,860 --> 01:09:02,070
you never know where you stand and and

1434
01:09:06,650 --> 01:09:03,870
it was used against Alex Jones in this

1435
01:09:08,540 --> 01:09:06,660
particular case but it's a hates the

1436
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:08,550
very concept of hate speech is a

1437
01:09:14,900 --> 01:09:12,090
pernicious dangerous concept it's one

1438
01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:14,910
thing to say something bad or say

1439
01:09:21,410 --> 01:09:18,420
something that people disagree with but

1440
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:21,420
what we have historically legislated

1441
01:09:26,210 --> 01:09:23,250
about you know in free societies are not

1442
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:26,220
speech but actions you know there's the

1443
01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:28,410
old adage you know don't shout fire in a

1444
01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:30,270
crowded movie theater but that's not

1445
01:09:34,190 --> 01:09:32,910
what he was doing and when people argue

1446
01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:34,200
that he was doing that they're just

1447
01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:36,270
stretching the boundaries of common

1448
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:38,220
sense out of all proportion and out of

1449
01:09:46,990 --> 01:09:43,290
all all sensibility and and reason so no

1450
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:47,000
we have a society based on freedom of

1451
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:49,890
expression and we I think it was Jordan

1452
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:51,510
Peterson to put it better than anyone

1453
01:09:56,930 --> 01:09:52,890
I've ever heard which is that free

1454
01:09:58,850 --> 01:09:56,940
speech isn't simply an ordinary right it

1455
01:10:00,860 --> 01:09:58,860
is the very foundation by which free

1456
01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:00,870
societies can regulate themselves you

1457
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:03,300
can't have a functioning society if you

1458
01:10:07,730 --> 01:10:05,310
don't allow people who disagree with you

1459
01:10:08,810 --> 01:10:07,740
to express themselves they have to be

1460
01:10:11,540 --> 01:10:08,820
able to because that's how we all get

1461
01:10:13,190 --> 01:10:11,550
better like I don't I don't get better

1462
01:10:15,050 --> 01:10:13,200
unless you can disagree with me and

1463
01:10:18,020 --> 01:10:15,060
point out to me mistakes that I've made

1464
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:18,030
and vice versa and when you don't have

1465
01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:21,090
that in society when you break that that

1466
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:23,910
down you're damaging the the core

1467
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:25,500
functionality of what it is to have

1468
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:28,260
freedom in a society and you know that

1469
01:10:32,660 --> 01:10:30,000
the deep platforming of Alex Jones is

1470
01:10:34,330 --> 01:10:32,670
one of those examples and and the fact

1471
01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:34,340
that it happened in a coordinated way

1472
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:36,780
with Facebook and Twitter and YouTube

1473
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:39,600
all like boom obviously there was a

1474
01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:41,730
significant marching orders coming from

1475
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:44,580
somewhere else yeah today today's social

1476
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:46,050
media

1477
01:10:55,820 --> 01:10:49,760
is so dangerous and so quick and so fast

1478
01:11:00,890 --> 01:10:55,830
that changing or in flaming opinions and

1479
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:00,900
emotions is now what what everybody does

1480
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,450
and now I'm gonna well let me bring my

1481
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:05,340
show I mean I do I do several live

1482
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,890
streams every week and I got to tell you

1483
01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:09,840
I'm constantly wondering how am I gonna

1484
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:11,940
get dinged by YouTube this time right

1485
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:14,910
because it happens i I'm so conscious of

1486
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:15,330
that

1487
01:11:19,940 --> 01:11:18,120
well algorithms out there yeah and like

1488
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:19,950
they it's not even human beings that

1489
01:11:24,020 --> 01:11:22,320
you're fighting with no you're not

1490
01:11:27,229 --> 01:11:24,030
you're fighting with artificially

1491
01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:27,239
intelligent algorithms that by the way

1492
01:11:31,729 --> 01:11:28,860
have their own biases as we're now

1493
01:11:34,010 --> 01:11:31,739
learning and and you can you can get

1494
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:34,020
dinged by YouTube they'll do monetize or

1495
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:36,090
or they'll give you a strike one and

1496
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:39,210
that type of thing and you can petition

1497
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:41,760
it and fight it which I have had to do

1498
01:11:46,190 --> 01:11:44,760
more than one time so so far I'm I'm in

1499
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:46,200
good standing with YouTube I haven't

1500
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:48,420
done anything yet but they they get me

1501
01:11:53,540 --> 01:11:50,489
and then we fight it and then they take

1502
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:53,550
it back so but it's a constant like is

1503
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:54,930
it gonna be this week is it gonna be

1504
01:11:59,780 --> 01:11:57,810
this time over things that are I you

1505
01:12:02,810 --> 01:11:59,790
know I never say anything that's

1506
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:02,820
actually offensive on any any program

1507
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:05,010
that I do but I talk about things that

1508
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:06,930
are sometimes difficult sometimes

1509
01:12:11,540 --> 01:12:09,120
controversial that's what life is that's

1510
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:11,550
what we do here and it's getting to a

1511
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:14,370
point where I think really people need

1512
01:12:18,860 --> 01:12:17,040
to be wondering what is happening

1513
01:12:21,530 --> 01:12:18,870
China's implementing their Social Credit

1514
01:12:22,820 --> 01:12:21,540
System mmm-hmm and you think that

1515
01:12:25,970 --> 01:12:22,830
Western countries are immune to that

1516
01:12:28,370 --> 01:12:25,980
we're already seeing early versions of

1517
01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:28,380
it being implemented here through social

1518
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:31,320
media shaming for example but it's going

1519
01:12:35,540 --> 01:12:33,410
to be much more you give it 10 years

1520
01:12:38,959 --> 01:12:35,550
China's got it now give us 10 years

1521
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:38,969
we're gonna see it yeah everybody needs

1522
01:12:43,220 --> 01:12:41,250
to be really conscious of this thought

1523
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:43,230
and if you don't think we're close to

1524
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:46,290
this listen to my words when you go and

1525
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,290
apply for a credit card the FICO your

1526
01:12:54,339 --> 01:12:51,120
FICO score will be the last thing that

1527
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:54,349
they look at you

1528
01:12:59,859 --> 01:12:56,510
are gonna be ranked in ways that you

1529
01:13:01,419 --> 01:12:59,869
have no idea pop in your email and so

1530
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:01,429
you can get confirmation on your credit

1531
01:13:07,299 --> 01:13:03,409
card application right just pop that in

1532
01:13:09,639 --> 01:13:07,309
there and just let them go crazy and and

1533
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:09,649
that that's where we're gonna have that

1534
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:12,409
kind of social Ryan wait for a 5g to get

1535
01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:14,719
rolled out and it's all all of its glory

1536
01:13:19,179 --> 01:13:16,849
because 5g is the total comprehensive

1537
01:13:20,889 --> 01:13:19,189
system that's the smart internet that's

1538
01:13:23,409 --> 01:13:20,899
all your smart devices that can talk to

1539
01:13:25,659 --> 01:13:23,419
each other and spy on you in ways that

1540
01:13:27,759 --> 01:13:25,669
will make you think the era of the cell

1541
01:13:30,459 --> 01:13:27,769
phone was the Golden Age of privacy

1542
01:13:32,919 --> 01:13:30,469
that's how bad it will be everything is

1543
01:13:34,629 --> 01:13:32,929
going to be monitored that's it there's

1544
01:13:38,069 --> 01:13:34,639
no escape and and all of that will be

1545
01:13:41,379 --> 01:13:38,079
you'll be you'll be graded ranked

1546
01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:41,389
modeled in algorithms psychologically

1547
01:13:45,819 --> 01:13:44,510
profiled and minority reported and

1548
01:13:48,339 --> 01:13:45,829
everything else like all of that will

1549
01:13:50,770 --> 01:13:48,349
happen there's nothing that's going to

1550
01:13:53,129 --> 01:13:50,780
stop this is this is a runaway train and

1551
01:13:55,869 --> 01:13:53,139
it's actually really scary look at

1552
01:13:58,659 --> 01:13:55,879
because with the 5g implementation and

1553
01:14:01,239 --> 01:13:58,669
they know about the health effects of

1554
01:14:03,429 --> 01:14:01,249
this there's no way not to know that

1555
01:14:05,020 --> 01:14:03,439
this is dangerous technology but I will

1556
01:14:08,379 --> 01:14:05,030
guarantee you that people rolling it out

1557
01:14:10,989 --> 01:14:08,389
do not care because for them 5g is a

1558
01:14:12,849 --> 01:14:10,999
necessity not only for total

1559
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:12,859
surveillance which is a nice fringe

1560
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:14,570
benefit but simply for military

1561
01:14:18,459 --> 01:14:17,090
advantage and for corporate money-making

1562
01:14:20,919 --> 01:14:18,469
opportunities it's just it's too

1563
01:14:23,290 --> 01:14:20,929
lucrative so and it's too powerful so

1564
01:14:26,379 --> 01:14:23,300
they will never hesitate rolling it out

1565
01:14:27,879 --> 01:14:26,389
and if a few million people die from the

1566
01:14:30,609 --> 01:14:27,889
effects well they'll pay the lawsuits

1567
01:14:34,179 --> 01:14:30,619
that's my prediction and it will roll

1568
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:34,189
out and we're looking at a culture that

1569
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,369
grows up in such a comprehensively

1570
01:14:42,189 --> 01:14:39,199
surveilled society with not a single

1571
01:14:45,819 --> 01:14:42,199
iota of privacy that's creating a Borg

1572
01:14:48,219 --> 01:14:45,829
mentality and that's my biggest fear so

1573
01:14:50,889 --> 01:14:48,229
Social Credit System yeah that'll be a

1574
01:14:53,290 --> 01:14:50,899
given but you wait for the future

1575
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:53,300
generations growing up with toxic food

1576
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:55,820
toxic education toxic information all

1577
01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:58,010
around them zoning out in virtual

1578
01:15:03,339 --> 01:15:00,800
reality total immersive immersive VR all

1579
01:15:05,979 --> 01:15:03,349
of that that's what we're looking at we

1580
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:05,989
I don't know how to stop it but like

1581
01:15:11,860 --> 01:15:08,330
think people really need to care about

1582
01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:11,870
this because this is happening it's

1583
01:15:17,170 --> 01:15:15,020
happening and by the way we can segue

1584
01:15:20,670 --> 01:15:17,180
into UFOs because I do think that there

1585
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:20,680
are tie ins here but this is a very very

1586
01:15:27,790 --> 01:15:24,320
serious it's what we're seeing now with

1587
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:27,800
the social pressures and the propaganda

1588
01:15:34,570 --> 01:15:29,690
that's being levied against us every

1589
01:15:37,810 --> 01:15:34,580
single day this is one symptom one

1590
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:37,820
element of a larger transformation of

1591
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:41,870
our society from something like freedom

1592
01:15:46,990 --> 01:15:44,570
to something like 24/7 totalitarianism

1593
01:15:49,780 --> 01:15:47,000
and we're seeing it happen by stages

1594
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:49,790
that's all we're seeing ya 5g the

1595
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:54,530
database the individual database for

1596
01:16:00,400 --> 01:15:57,530
every person on this planet certainly

1597
01:16:04,540 --> 01:16:00,410
everybody from newborns as we are

1598
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:04,550
talking through adulthood and seniors

1599
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:06,650
the database is already there and once

1600
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:10,250
5g rolls out its just tying in that

1601
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:13,250
database to you and your smart devices

1602
01:16:19,209 --> 01:16:16,489
and it's that simple that it's it's

1603
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:19,219
seriously just the flip of a switch and

1604
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:21,040
it turns up the flow of information

1605
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:22,910
exponentially that's the thing like the

1606
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:25,850
amount of data real-time flow through IG

1607
01:16:31,090 --> 01:16:28,460
5g is just off the charts like hundred

1608
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:31,100
times more or even greater than forging

1609
01:16:36,820 --> 01:16:35,210
what so so it allows and the way that by

1610
01:16:39,220 --> 01:16:36,830
the way artificial intelligence will

1611
01:16:41,140 --> 01:16:39,230
probably develop is through massive

1612
01:16:45,490 --> 01:16:41,150
amounts of data 5g will make that

1613
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:45,500
possible so look for look for the return

1614
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:49,850
American facilitated by 5g capabilities

1615
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:52,610
I wanted to let's let's let's get right

1616
01:16:58,930 --> 01:16:56,080
into a UFOs I wanted to ask you about

1617
01:17:01,390 --> 01:16:58,940
the two videos that surfaced over the

1618
01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:01,400
last month the one that surfaced out of

1619
01:17:07,690 --> 01:17:05,150
Utah and one out of Spain that are

1620
01:17:10,900 --> 01:17:07,700
nearly identical both shot with drones

1621
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:10,910
oddly enough and both with the UFOs

1622
01:17:15,459 --> 01:17:13,760
apparently appearing in mountain ranges

1623
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,469
and moving at you know pretty great

1624
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:17,840
speeds what do you think about those two

1625
01:17:20,610 --> 01:17:19,090
videos well

1626
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:20,620
let me talk about the Utah video first

1627
01:17:23,820 --> 01:17:22,480
because I am a little bit more familiar

1628
01:17:26,250 --> 01:17:23,830
with that one anyway

1629
01:17:27,870 --> 01:17:26,260
I'm aware of the one out of Spain it's I

1630
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:27,880
think it sounds very interesting as well

1631
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:30,310
but I confess I haven't really been

1632
01:17:34,830 --> 01:17:32,650
subjected to like an analysis of it and

1633
01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:34,840
I'd be more comfortable talking about

1634
01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:37,780
the Utah one the Utah one to me is is

1635
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:39,490
particularly interesting there's a lot

1636
01:17:44,220 --> 01:17:41,410
of people pro and con about it but

1637
01:17:47,180 --> 01:17:44,230
basically it was filmed it at the later

1638
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:47,190
part of 2016 I think in November and

1639
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:50,050
it's a hell of a video to watch for sure

1640
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:52,080
and there's a lot of different analyses

1641
01:18:01,320 --> 01:17:57,040
that are available now about it but

1642
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:01,330
essentially you've got you know people

1643
01:18:08,940 --> 01:18:06,010
have have sort of done a what do I want

1644
01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:08,950
to say here the trajectory of it and

1645
01:18:14,970 --> 01:18:11,350
sort of mapped it out on Google Earth

1646
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:14,980
and accordingly at least one argument

1647
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,970
the parallax argument the object moved

1648
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:20,320
something like two and a half or three

1649
01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:23,050
miles in such a short period of time it

1650
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,820
was estimated moving multiple thousands

1651
01:18:27,890 --> 01:18:26,320
of miles per hour maybe nine thousand

1652
01:18:30,660 --> 01:18:27,900
ten thousand miles per hour or more

1653
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:30,670
there are alternative arguments I've

1654
01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:33,040
been really doing my best to see where

1655
01:18:36,330 --> 01:18:34,360
these guys are coming from so whether

1656
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:36,340
it's a hawk Falcon moving at a

1657
01:18:42,210 --> 01:18:40,090
relatively slow speed insect doesn't

1658
01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:42,220
seem very credible to me I have to be

1659
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:43,720
honest and just every time I look at

1660
01:18:47,370 --> 01:18:46,270
that video I don't see hawk at all and

1661
01:18:50,010 --> 01:18:47,380
by the way I've gotten a lot of

1662
01:18:52,980 --> 01:18:50,020
correspondence from Falcon and Hawk

1663
01:18:55,310 --> 01:18:52,990
experts into my inbox and I will just

1664
01:18:58,110 --> 01:18:55,320
tell you every one of them and these are

1665
01:19:00,960 --> 01:18:58,120
clearly highly expert people they're all

1666
01:19:04,230 --> 01:19:00,970
saying no not Hawk not a falcon not even

1667
01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:04,240
close not a chance so it's it's either

1668
01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:07,870
in my opinion I'm ruling out Hawks and

1669
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:09,400
and insects I don't think that's

1670
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:12,490
credible at all it's either real legit

1671
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:17,290
or at CGI CGI is at least in theory a

1672
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:20,530
possibility my understanding is that

1673
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:23,110
these types of videos it is and it is

1674
01:19:28,860 --> 01:19:26,880
possible to craft a video that is

1675
01:19:32,170 --> 01:19:28,870
convincing I've talked to a couple of

1676
01:19:35,170 --> 01:19:32,180
CGI experts who say that it can be done

1677
01:19:36,970 --> 01:19:35,180
problem is when you listen to the the

1678
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:36,980
gentleman who was operating the Joan at

1679
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:39,440
the time I've listened a couple of his

1680
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:42,800
interviews he's kind of put his

1681
01:19:46,540 --> 01:19:44,210
background out there for everyone to

1682
01:19:48,430 --> 01:19:46,550
analyze and I think he made it pretty

1683
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:48,440
clear that he's not a CGI expert not

1684
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:51,710
even close he's as a Joan guy I didn't

1685
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:54,290
really get that sense from him that he

1686
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:56,510
was trying to make this up and if

1687
01:19:59,860 --> 01:19:57,890
someone wants to make that claim they

1688
01:20:01,420 --> 01:19:59,870
better provide some evidence I'm not

1689
01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:01,430
seeing any reason to believe that this

1690
01:20:07,330 --> 01:20:05,030
was a CGI so to me I'm going on the

1691
01:20:09,790 --> 01:20:07,340
assumption that this Joan video is what

1692
01:20:14,290 --> 01:20:09,800
it appears of a genuine UFO and I would

1693
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:14,300
point out that in our history go back to

1694
01:20:20,740 --> 01:20:18,130
the 40s go back to the 1950s we have

1695
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:20,750
official government documents that talk

1696
01:20:29,050 --> 01:20:25,510
about instruments tracking objects

1697
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:29,060
moving at multiple thousands of miles

1698
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:32,570
per hour and you know whether

1699
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:34,730
triangulated through something like

1700
01:20:40,090 --> 01:20:37,370
project twinkle in the early 1950s which

1701
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:40,100
was a an attempt by the United States

1702
01:20:44,230 --> 01:20:42,770
Air Force to track these anomalous

1703
01:20:46,930 --> 01:20:44,240
objects that were being seen in

1704
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:46,940
southwestern US or when you talk about

1705
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:51,170
Navy missile trackers in 1948 who are

1706
01:20:56,910 --> 01:20:53,360
about to launch a skyhook balloon and

1707
01:20:59,920 --> 01:20:56,920
they see through theodolite these are

1708
01:21:03,970 --> 01:20:59,930
measuring devices like telescopes that

1709
01:21:06,670 --> 01:21:03,980
have the ability to measure altitude and

1710
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,680
azimuth and so forth with those

1711
01:21:12,190 --> 01:21:08,960
instruments they tracked an incredibly

1712
01:21:15,930 --> 01:21:12,200
fast elliptical white or silvery UFO

1713
01:21:18,340 --> 01:21:15,940
moving it estimated possibly as high as

1714
01:21:21,370 --> 01:21:18,350
18,000 miles per hours five miles per

1715
01:21:28,170 --> 01:21:21,380
second so there's a lot of these types

1716
01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:28,180
of seemingly well attested measured

1717
01:21:35,380 --> 01:21:31,430
sightings by US military of objects

1718
01:21:38,230 --> 01:21:35,390
going at ridiculously fast speeds so

1719
01:21:40,810 --> 01:21:38,240
it's not out of the realm of possibility

1720
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:40,820
is what I'm saying there are very very

1721
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:43,130
rapid moving objects and we have them in

1722
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:45,650
our documented

1723
01:21:51,850 --> 01:21:49,490
of ID history so with that in mind I

1724
01:21:53,410 --> 01:21:51,860
think it's a mistake for skeptics to go

1725
01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:53,420
on the assumption it can't be therefore

1726
01:21:57,790 --> 01:21:55,190
it isn't which is what you get with a

1727
01:21:59,140 --> 01:21:57,800
lot of these people so they'll then you

1728
01:22:03,250 --> 01:21:59,150
know do all kinds of mental gymnastics

1729
01:22:07,390 --> 01:22:03,260
to find an excuse to label something as

1730
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,400
as a hawk I mean I understand wanting to

1731
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,440
find conventional explanations and you

1732
01:22:13,870 --> 01:22:11,840
should should should always look for

1733
01:22:15,790 --> 01:22:13,880
conventional explanations but when it

1734
01:22:17,140 --> 01:22:15,800
when the conventional explanation itself

1735
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,150
is ridiculous and you got to ask

1736
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:19,040
yourself well what why don't we what are

1737
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:21,110
we talking about here so with the Utah

1738
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:23,810
UFO video I'm I'm on the side of the

1739
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:27,530
fence at the moment of thinking that

1740
01:22:32,290 --> 01:22:30,170
it's legit and that it's anomalous that

1741
01:22:35,470 --> 01:22:32,300
could be persuaded otherwise but the

1742
01:22:39,130 --> 01:22:35,480
video out of Spain is nearly identical

1743
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:39,140
have you seen the video out of Spain so

1744
01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:41,930
I saw JPEG I saw a still image of it so

1745
01:22:46,780 --> 01:22:44,120
I haven't looked at the video okay it's

1746
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:46,790
it's the it doesn't really matter in

1747
01:22:52,810 --> 01:22:49,760
that it's the Spanish version of the

1748
01:22:55,060 --> 01:22:52,820
same video okay so you have a drone

1749
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:55,070
cruising around looking at real estate

1750
01:23:00,040 --> 01:22:57,650
whatever in a mountainous region of

1751
01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:00,050
Spain and then out of the side of this

1752
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:02,120
mountain pops is shelling me right now

1753
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,810
right so watch that and nearly the same

1754
01:23:09,730 --> 01:23:07,760
and they did the same breakdown they did

1755
01:23:13,570 --> 01:23:09,740
the Google Earth and mapping the terrain

1756
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:13,580
and in this case though yeah this case

1757
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,730
it exits the mountain right it looks

1758
01:23:23,530 --> 01:23:18,400
like it comes came out a few days ago

1759
01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:23,540
about two weeks ago maybe two yeah all

1760
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:31,450
but this was published February 10th so

1761
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:35,440
I'm going on that and today's the 18th

1762
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:37,850
okay a week and a half ago

1763
01:23:44,530 --> 01:23:42,530
that's eight days give me this much okay

1764
01:23:49,150 --> 01:23:44,540
I'll give you eight days okay be a days

1765
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:49,160
but you're only allowed two days leeway

1766
01:23:55,540 --> 01:23:50,960
here okay you get you get two days

1767
01:23:57,810 --> 01:23:55,550
cushion but it seems very similar now

1768
01:24:00,840 --> 01:23:57,820
are we looking at a copycat video

1769
01:24:02,490 --> 01:24:00,850
of Utah right somebody that wants the

1770
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:02,500
Utah video and then went and created

1771
01:24:08,430 --> 01:24:04,960
that or are we looking at the same

1772
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:08,440
object of the same type of craft in a

1773
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:11,110
remote region and again it doesn't have

1774
01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:14,110
to be a copycat video because if you

1775
01:24:19,230 --> 01:24:15,580
really think about it logically

1776
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:19,240
all right the biggest I mean we're in an

1777
01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:22,110
era now where cameras are everywhere

1778
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:25,390
YouTube is now ubiquitous and so it's

1779
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:28,930
not and and 4k capabilities or know how

1780
01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:30,250
this looks like it's probably I'm sure

1781
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:33,000
it's a 4k video just like the Utah one

1782
01:24:37,980 --> 01:24:35,230
so with the capabilities and the

1783
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:37,990
resolution being what they are it

1784
01:24:43,290 --> 01:24:41,050
shouldn't be shocking that we're

1785
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:43,300
catching things that we would not

1786
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:45,910
otherwise have seen so that at least

1787
01:24:50,370 --> 01:24:48,130
just in theory but of course it could be

1788
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:50,380
a copycat video I mean why not sure and

1789
01:24:54,570 --> 01:24:52,570
now we have everybody is seeing this

1790
01:24:58,050 --> 01:24:54,580
you've got a drone that can go out and

1791
01:24:59,850 --> 01:24:58,060
shoot at 1080 or a 4k video you can go

1792
01:25:04,590 --> 01:24:59,860
out and shoot in any remote region and

1793
01:25:07,380 --> 01:25:04,600
and just you know apply rinse rinse and

1794
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:07,390
repeat and apply an object into your

1795
01:25:11,490 --> 01:25:09,730
video and with this you know start to

1796
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:11,500
give people ideas to go and do this I

1797
01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:13,630
would like to say that the Spain video

1798
01:25:20,580 --> 01:25:18,100
is just as legit looking as the Utah

1799
01:25:24,090 --> 01:25:20,590
video it's a pretty good video and it's

1800
01:25:26,460 --> 01:25:24,100
funny those of us who aren't technically

1801
01:25:28,410 --> 01:25:26,470
trained in video analysis yeah I would

1802
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:28,420
agree with you it looks every bit as

1803
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:30,370
good with all of these videos what you

1804
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:31,930
have to do is get the backstory to the

1805
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:34,690
maximum extent possible like YouTube

1806
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:37,690
videos unfortunately by themselves

1807
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:39,250
aren't really going to cut it they never

1808
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:41,290
they never will right so you've got to

1809
01:25:44,420 --> 01:25:42,670
go back you've got to interview the

1810
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:44,430
witnesses you've got to get as much

1811
01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:46,930
detailed information about the backstory

1812
01:25:54,210 --> 01:25:52,180
of the person it's like a going to trial

1813
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:54,220
you get character witnesses you get any

1814
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:55,840
other kind of relevant testimony that

1815
01:26:00,510 --> 01:25:59,050
you can get and we'll we still may never

1816
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:00,520
be in a position where we can how to

1817
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:04,270
present confirm it but maybe we can get

1818
01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:06,490
to a point where we can say it looks

1819
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:09,100
real or it looks vague and and that's at

1820
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:11,330
least better than not having any idea

1821
01:26:14,230 --> 01:26:12,650
it's an interesting video I'm looking at

1822
01:26:17,740 --> 01:26:14,240
it again and again right there yeah and

1823
01:26:21,190 --> 01:26:17,750
it has the same kind of graceful arc of

1824
01:26:26,350 --> 01:26:21,200
the motion the same drone flyby at the

1825
01:26:28,780 --> 01:26:26,360
end yes a lot of people argued that

1826
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:28,790
because the the Utah and I'm sure with

1827
01:26:33,700 --> 01:26:30,800
the Spanish one here because it had that

1828
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:33,710
graceful arc there were arguments that

1829
01:26:38,530 --> 01:26:35,840
that said well that mitigates against it

1830
01:26:41,620 --> 01:26:38,540
being a genuine UFO as almost as if they

1831
01:26:44,860 --> 01:26:41,630
expected a genuine UFO to have you know

1832
01:26:47,050 --> 01:26:44,870
always non-inertial turns and this type

1833
01:26:50,650 --> 01:26:47,060
of thing and historically that just

1834
01:26:55,150 --> 01:26:50,660
isn't true so historically UFO sightings

1835
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:55,160
have had many examples of craft moving

1836
01:27:00,760 --> 01:26:58,610
in extremely graceful arcs at like a

1837
01:27:03,340 --> 01:27:00,770
bird would do except that they're not

1838
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:03,350
birds so I don't think it's a fair

1839
01:27:10,030 --> 01:27:07,370
argument to make that you know because

1840
01:27:12,190 --> 01:27:10,040
it moves in what seems to be a proper

1841
01:27:15,460 --> 01:27:12,200
aerodynamic manner that it's therefore

1842
01:27:18,210 --> 01:27:15,470
not anomalous I mean that just doesn't

1843
01:27:22,630 --> 01:27:18,220
make sense to me and the other thing

1844
01:27:26,410 --> 01:27:22,640
what if there is a human in that craft

1845
01:27:29,020 --> 01:27:26,420
or you know and that it there's there's

1846
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:29,030
a human element a terrestrial element to

1847
01:27:34,420 --> 01:27:31,970
this you know it's not necessarily eat

1848
01:27:36,490 --> 01:27:34,430
eat that there's a that can get us into

1849
01:27:38,940 --> 01:27:36,500
some of the science that I I would love

1850
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:38,950
to talk about with you tonight because

1851
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:41,510
I've really been forming the opinion

1852
01:27:45,670 --> 01:27:43,730
that it's the world of science perhaps

1853
01:27:49,930 --> 01:27:45,680
maybe even more than the world of

1854
01:27:51,460 --> 01:27:49,940
politics that might promote or push what

1855
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:51,470
we might consider a genuine disclosure

1856
01:27:55,930 --> 01:27:53,450
of the UFO subject because it seems to

1857
01:27:58,210 --> 01:27:55,940
me that some of the science being

1858
01:28:02,740 --> 01:27:58,220
discussed currently and I'm talking last

1859
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:02,750
year or so mm-hmm is attempting to

1860
01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:05,930
explain just how if there were a human

1861
01:28:09,790 --> 01:28:08,030
in those objects and I'm not saying

1862
01:28:12,130 --> 01:28:09,800
that's the case but if there were how

1863
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:12,140
human could actually survive and how how

1864
01:28:16,540 --> 01:28:15,050
it would be possible well let's do that

1865
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:16,550
when we come back yeah let's take our

1866
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:19,010
break right here and our guest tonight

1867
01:28:23,810 --> 01:28:22,410
is Richard Dolan Richard bleep and Dolan

1868
01:28:25,220 --> 01:28:23,820
we come back we're gonna talk about some

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the why this is fade to black or guess

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not Richard Owen will be back after this

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short break stay with us

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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hi I'm Lisa Vance you're listening to

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Jimmy Church this is revolution the

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welcome back fade to black on the game

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changer Network in kg RA the planet I'm

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here to meet Church you can follow me on

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Twitter at JDO you can follow our guest

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tonight Richard Dolan at rich Dolan on

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Twitter very simple to do

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01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:32,550
now Richard it's talking about these

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01:34:42,770 --> 01:34:38,210
these projects the list was released and

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01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:42,780
we got this last month but the it was

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01:34:50,260 --> 01:34:47,370
who signed it right and it's a Christine

1985
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,270
camp and II see the chief of the DIA

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01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:52,800
congressional relations division and the

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01:34:58,520 --> 01:34:55,890
distribution of this list is right here

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majority leader you a Senate speaker at

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US House bah-bah-bah goes all the way

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down and there was one thing at the

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bottom of the letter that I found

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interesting which is you know everything

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is unclassified except for attachment

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number 37 and it's got a secret no

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foreign version of attachment 38 and

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then you scroll down and take a quick

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peek at number 37 which is state of the

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art and evolution of high-energy laser

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weapons okay all right okay so but the

2000
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:32,820
rest of it is all pretty interesting for

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01:35:37,340 --> 01:35:35,130
our community when you saw the

2002
01:35:39,380 --> 01:35:37,350
distribution list and the list of

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01:35:42,980 --> 01:35:39,390
reports here that is being distributed

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01:35:44,330 --> 01:35:42,990
what did you think well yeah I just want

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to give a little background for folks so

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01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:46,320
what you're referring to is about a

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01:35:51,530 --> 01:35:47,370
month ago the Defense Intelligence

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01:35:54,260 --> 01:35:51,540
Agency released a list of as you just

2009
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said unclassified scientific papers that

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01:35:58,630 --> 01:35:56,460
are dealing with some very very leading

2011
01:36:02,230 --> 01:35:58,640
edge cutting-edge some critics would say

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01:36:07,430 --> 01:36:02,240
sci-fi fantastical types of concepts

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01:36:09,620 --> 01:36:07,440
these were actually commissioned under

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the the program the a tip program the

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01:36:13,190 --> 01:36:11,550
advanced aerospace threat identification

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01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:13,200
programs of the UFO program that

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01:36:21,290 --> 01:36:15,810
everyone's been talking about since late

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01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:21,300
2017 and the actually these papers were

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first discussed as far as I know by help

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put off

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summer in 2018 for the Society of

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scientific exploration SSC conference

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01:36:39,410 --> 01:36:34,410
that they had in I think it was in June

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01:36:42,170 --> 01:36:39,420
of 2018 he mentioned them there and then

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01:36:44,690 --> 01:36:42,180
I get I think was through FOIA but

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01:36:48,380 --> 01:36:44,700
somehow the DIA just released those very

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01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:48,390
titles about a month ago so they're in

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01:36:53,450 --> 01:36:51,450
it's an incredible list of subjects and

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just to give people an idea if they

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01:36:59,420 --> 01:36:57,720
haven't heard about this so one of the

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papers this is one that actually put off

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01:37:05,060 --> 01:37:01,680
himself wrote called advanced space

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propulsion based on vacuum space time

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01:37:09,230 --> 01:37:07,110
metric engineering you think about that

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01:37:10,670 --> 01:37:09,240
I'm happy to talk about it to my limited

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01:37:14,350 --> 01:37:10,680
ability they've got others like

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01:37:18,260 --> 01:37:14,360
invisibility cloak traversable wormholes

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01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,270
stargates and negative energy and much

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01:37:21,730 --> 01:37:20,400
more the one that is fully classified as

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01:37:24,350 --> 01:37:21,740
you mentioned has to do with laser

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high-energy laser weapons and so it's a

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01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:26,490
clear military application and I assume

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01:37:31,220 --> 01:37:29,130
they don't want that out there yet but

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01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:31,230
these others are basically speculative

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01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:34,290
papers and the question is you really

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01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:38,250
ask what is going on here and the

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01:37:42,890 --> 01:37:40,560
backstory of this is actually quite

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01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:42,900
interesting and this really gets me

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01:37:49,670 --> 01:37:45,930
thinking about well a lot of things one

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01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:49,680
is the toll tts a venture you know led

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01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:53,370
by at least fronted by Tom DeLonge which

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01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:56,090
has been such a lightning rod of

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conversation and controversy since it's

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01:38:03,550 --> 01:38:01,140
been announced but in my opinion the

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01:38:07,370 --> 01:38:03,560
person to be looking at with that whole

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01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:07,380
operation isn't DeLong and it isn't even

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01:38:11,630 --> 01:38:09,570
Lew Elizondo although we s he's

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01:38:13,220 --> 01:38:11,640
interesting but the person to be looking

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01:38:18,230 --> 01:38:13,230
at his help put off how long have you

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known how funny I've known him not close

2061
01:38:22,130 --> 01:38:19,650
but we have known each other in a very

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cordial way for almost 20 years now so

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when my first book came out in 2000 I

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self-published that book it was man that

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was before Amazon - so it was I pushed

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in the truly old-school method like I

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had to go through the whole process of

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finding printers and distributor

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all that but my book came out in the

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middle of 2000 people started to learn

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01:38:51,989 --> 01:38:49,839
about me later part of 2001 of those

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01:38:54,989 --> 01:38:51,999
people apparently was now put off who

2073
01:38:59,459 --> 01:38:54,999
told me he wrote to me and even then I

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01:39:01,469 --> 01:38:59,469
knew who he was I was very inexperienced

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01:39:02,609 --> 01:39:01,479
and I nearly fell off my chair when he

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01:39:04,290 --> 01:39:02,619
told me that he had actually bought a

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01:39:06,750 --> 01:39:04,300
bunch of copies of my book and had given

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01:39:10,339 --> 01:39:06,760
it out to a number of his colleagues I

2079
01:39:14,609 --> 01:39:10,349
thought oh wow okay well here we go so I

2080
01:39:16,529 --> 01:39:14,619
you know over the years would correspond

2081
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,539
with him we would chat I met with him in

2082
01:39:20,699 --> 01:39:19,119
person a few times and I really want to

2083
01:39:22,949 --> 01:39:20,709
emphasize it's not like I was his buddy

2084
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:22,959
we were never that close but we

2085
01:39:27,359 --> 01:39:25,689
respected each other and we had a couple

2086
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:27,369
of conversations that I would classify

2087
01:39:32,819 --> 01:39:30,489
as heart-to-heart that were personal and

2088
01:39:35,369 --> 01:39:32,829
where I felt like we took each other's

2089
01:39:37,139 --> 01:39:35,379
measure as it were and and and I think

2090
01:39:38,969 --> 01:39:37,149
we respected each other so I was

2091
01:39:43,229 --> 01:39:38,979
fortunate and what I've never tried to

2092
01:39:45,149 --> 01:39:43,239
do is is push that relationship and he's

2093
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:45,159
busy he's a very interesting and busy

2094
01:39:51,209 --> 01:39:48,489
person but from time to time if I have

2095
01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,219
questions he's one of the people that I

2096
01:39:54,839 --> 01:39:53,199
would correspond with and ask and get

2097
01:39:56,939 --> 01:39:54,849
his take on whatever it is I'm

2098
01:39:59,099 --> 01:39:56,949
interested in what on any aspect of

2099
01:40:02,520 --> 01:39:59,109
ufology what I learned over the years is

2100
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:02,530
that this was a man who wasn't just the

2101
01:40:06,119 --> 01:40:04,449
co-founder of the remote viewing program

2102
01:40:08,909 --> 01:40:06,129
which of course famously with Russell

2103
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:08,919
Targ mmm-hmm but and he's not just a guy

2104
01:40:13,259 --> 01:40:10,719
who was interested in zero-point energy

2105
01:40:14,669 --> 01:40:13,269
and leading-edge energy solutions but

2106
01:40:17,759 --> 01:40:14,679
he's someone who's had an active

2107
01:40:22,229 --> 01:40:17,769
interest in UFOs and starting last

2108
01:40:24,750 --> 01:40:22,239
summer he outed himself as someone who's

2109
01:40:26,669 --> 01:40:24,760
actually had a long-standing interest

2110
01:40:29,609 --> 01:40:26,679
and concern with the UFO phenomenon and

2111
01:40:33,509 --> 01:40:29,619
I knew this of course but he went out

2112
01:40:37,559 --> 01:40:33,519
and stated it I'm you know I think it's

2113
01:40:41,389 --> 01:40:37,569
he's he's 80 he's in his 80s now and I

2114
01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:41,399
really have come to believe that he is

2115
01:40:50,459 --> 01:40:46,510
an incredibly important person for where

2116
01:40:51,839 --> 01:40:50,469
we are at right now at this phase of

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01:40:54,209 --> 01:40:51,849
history

2118
01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:54,219
with the our knowledge of the UFO

2119
01:41:00,990 --> 01:40:57,280
phenomenon and people who are interested

2120
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:01,000
in what we call disclosure I put him at

2121
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:04,719
a really important place in all of this

2122
01:41:09,689 --> 01:41:07,840
and it just seems to me there's a very

2123
01:41:12,750 --> 01:41:09,699
very small amount of discussion about

2124
01:41:13,879 --> 01:41:12,760
him whereas his importance is much much

2125
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:13,889
greater than the amount of conversation

2126
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:16,810
about him seems to me the the community

2127
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:20,320
needs to hear from him why why don't we

2128
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:25,420
hear from Hal directly III write to him

2129
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:27,489
and I'll he'll get back to me when he

2130
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:29,170
when he wants to you know I've asked to

2131
01:41:33,089 --> 01:41:31,210
interview him many times and he gives

2132
01:41:34,830 --> 01:41:33,099
these wonderful soft-nosed which is like

2133
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:34,840
well I'll think about it well I'll get

2134
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:36,010
back to you and which of course that

2135
01:41:43,890 --> 01:41:40,530
says no he's a very very dignified

2136
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:43,900
sophisticated polite man and but he's

2137
01:41:49,140 --> 01:41:47,170
also very careful very careful about his

2138
01:41:50,700 --> 01:41:49,150
public statements he's always been you

2139
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:50,710
know he's worked with in the classified

2140
01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:53,920
world for a really long time and so he's

2141
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,540
learned the game he knows what he's

2142
01:41:59,310 --> 01:41:57,040
allowed to say and what he's able to say

2143
01:42:02,339 --> 01:41:59,320
and what he can't say so I think his

2144
01:42:05,490 --> 01:42:02,349
position is just you know not put put

2145
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:05,500
himself in a position where he's going

2146
01:42:09,149 --> 01:42:07,750
to be saying things that he can't say I

2147
01:42:11,609 --> 01:42:09,159
think it's that simple so the easiest

2148
01:42:13,859 --> 01:42:11,619
thing is just to avoid it altogether but

2149
01:42:15,419 --> 01:42:13,869
I I will say this like his public

2150
01:42:19,589 --> 01:42:15,429
statements now are a matter of record

2151
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:19,599
and particularly of supreme importance

2152
01:42:27,740 --> 01:42:24,489
is his statement at the SSC conference

2153
01:42:32,330 --> 01:42:27,750
last summer and he talked shockingly

2154
01:42:35,250 --> 01:42:32,340
candidly about the UAP UFO phenomenon

2155
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:35,260
talked about his relationship to the

2156
01:42:40,770 --> 01:42:37,650
entire a tip program which was as a sub

2157
01:42:46,350 --> 01:42:40,780
contractor to Bigelow advanced aerospace

2158
01:42:47,490 --> 01:42:46,360
systems bass Bigelow contracted with how

2159
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:47,500
put offs company earth Tech

2160
01:42:52,050 --> 01:42:50,170
International to collaborate as a

2161
01:42:54,209 --> 01:42:52,060
subcontractor which he agreed to do and

2162
01:42:57,300 --> 01:42:54,219
his main thing here this is an

2163
01:43:01,680 --> 01:42:57,310
incredible behind-the-scenes thing that

2164
01:43:04,220 --> 01:43:01,690
he did which was he identified that

2165
01:43:05,699 --> 01:43:04,230
there were there was so much

2166
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:05,709
compartmentalization

2167
01:43:09,779 --> 01:43:08,050
the subject of UFOs everything's

2168
01:43:12,989 --> 01:43:09,789
compartment and and he had said this to

2169
01:43:14,759 --> 01:43:12,999
me many times over the years and he said

2170
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:14,769
that it's a problem because if you're

2171
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,530
trying scientifically to understand this

2172
01:43:22,049 --> 01:43:19,840
phenomenon and you really want to get

2173
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:22,059
the best minds involved it's difficult

2174
01:43:25,069 --> 01:43:23,679
because everything is so compartmented

2175
01:43:30,330 --> 01:43:25,079
no one's knows what each other's doing

2176
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:30,340
so he wanted to get expert opinions on

2177
01:43:35,699 --> 01:43:32,530
advanced tech in a variety of fields but

2178
01:43:38,759 --> 01:43:35,709
he wasn't in a position to let these

2179
01:43:41,819 --> 01:43:38,769
individuals know why he wanted it so

2180
01:43:43,770 --> 01:43:41,829
what he did was to ask for what he

2181
01:43:45,959 --> 01:43:43,780
called unclassified white papers from

2182
01:43:48,509 --> 01:43:45,969
experts around the world on their

2183
01:43:53,209 --> 01:43:48,519
particular areas and where those where

2184
01:44:02,489 --> 01:43:59,489
that was you and you gotta love it when

2185
01:44:05,489 --> 01:44:02,499
Siri kicks in it happens to me here too

2186
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:05,499
as well crazy I know but I guess I have

2187
01:44:10,649 --> 01:44:08,650
Siri yeah yeah what's you saying that

2188
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:10,659
series not at the point of understanding

2189
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:13,209
black world technology so that's good

2190
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,239
well see the thing is is the fact that

2191
01:44:20,609 --> 01:44:18,639
you are talking about the CIA and NSA

2192
01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:20,619
and he said top-secret a couple of times

2193
01:44:28,259 --> 01:44:23,920
it went straight to their database but

2194
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:28,269
see this is the thing Richard I was with

2195
01:44:33,779 --> 01:44:30,719
and I found you know the whole

2196
01:44:36,270 --> 01:44:33,789
compartmentalize aspect of this last

2197
01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:36,280
week I was gonna mention this to you

2198
01:44:40,049 --> 01:44:38,289
this week over the phone I just forgot

2199
01:44:42,149 --> 01:44:40,059
but last week

2200
01:44:44,219 --> 01:44:42,159
and don't ask me how or where I don't

2201
01:44:45,929 --> 01:44:44,229
want to give anything away and it wasn't

2202
01:44:48,779 --> 01:44:45,939
some top-secret thing it was a chance

2203
01:44:52,830 --> 01:44:48,789
meeting that I had with somebody in the

2204
01:44:55,140 --> 01:44:52,840
Air Force right and so and he's got he's

2205
01:44:57,449 --> 01:44:55,150
a he's like a sergeant major right he's

2206
01:45:00,899 --> 01:44:57,459
got all the stripes on you know he's you

2207
01:45:04,589 --> 01:45:00,909
know distinctive guy he's in uniform in

2208
01:45:06,589 --> 01:45:04,599
fatigues and I said hey you know what do

2209
01:45:09,989 --> 01:45:06,599
you do and and

2210
01:45:11,239 --> 01:45:09,999
you know me I'm a loud mouth guy and he

2211
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:11,249
says uh-oh

2212
01:45:15,629 --> 01:45:13,570
okay I don't want to get into it I don't

2213
01:45:18,090 --> 01:45:15,639
want to give his identity away but he

2214
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:18,100
dealt with satellites okay okay

2215
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:20,020
which is basically what goes in there's

2216
01:45:26,670 --> 01:45:21,760
no air force bases here in Los Angeles

2217
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:26,680
so anyway I said hey you got a security

2218
01:45:30,500 --> 01:45:28,840
clearance and he goes of course I didn't

2219
01:45:32,910 --> 01:45:30,510
I said okay what do you have because uh

2220
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:32,920
well you really can't get into it but

2221
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:34,330
let's just say I definitely have a

2222
01:45:37,290 --> 01:45:35,050
secret

2223
01:45:40,350 --> 01:45:37,300
I said what's above that he goes top

2224
01:45:42,570 --> 01:45:40,360
secret I said okay what's above that he

2225
01:45:45,170 --> 01:45:42,580
goes well nothing there's only one I

2226
01:45:47,070 --> 01:45:45,180
said okay what's above I any

2227
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:47,080
clarification here and I told him I said

2228
01:45:52,820 --> 01:45:48,880
I'm a radio host I do this I do that or

2229
01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:52,830
a lot of line and and he goes okay

2230
01:45:58,770 --> 01:45:57,040
Yankee white I said Yankee white and he

2231
01:46:00,420 --> 01:45:58,780
goes yeah that's it I said well what

2232
01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:00,430
about a cue clearance he goes there's no

2233
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:02,950
such thing I said well what about what

2234
01:46:08,370 --> 01:46:05,890
about what about and Houston come on man

2235
01:46:11,550 --> 01:46:08,380
there is it you sir secret there's top

2236
01:46:13,620 --> 01:46:11,560
secret and Yankee white now when you get

2237
01:46:17,310 --> 01:46:13,630
a top secret clearance what you are

2238
01:46:20,610 --> 01:46:17,320
exposed to is limited but there are no

2239
01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:20,620
other clearances or classifications it's

2240
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:22,980
either secret top secret or Yankee white

2241
01:46:28,380 --> 01:46:26,650
and I was like really I just looked it

2242
01:46:29,970 --> 01:46:28,390
up it's a security clearance given in

2243
01:46:31,460 --> 01:46:29,980
the US for personnel working with the

2244
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:31,470
president that's right

2245
01:46:38,370 --> 01:46:35,170
houses right here yep yep and and I came

2246
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:38,380
back I was like Rita you gotta check

2247
01:46:42,900 --> 01:46:40,510
this out right and so and I even told

2248
01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:42,910
them I said it context that to me right

2249
01:46:45,420 --> 01:46:44,470
now and he goes hey man proceed at your

2250
01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:45,430
own risk right now

2251
01:46:51,780 --> 01:46:49,030
okay so I texted Yankee white to me but

2252
01:46:54,090 --> 01:46:51,790
there you go and I said so what do I do

2253
01:46:55,770 --> 01:46:54,100
when somebody says hey you know I was in

2254
01:46:58,230 --> 01:46:55,780
the Air Force and I had a cute clearance

2255
01:47:01,050 --> 01:46:58,240
he because it doesn't exist there's no

2256
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:01,060
such thing and he looked at me like you

2257
01:47:04,860 --> 01:47:03,130
know and he had nothing to hide I know

2258
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:04,870
it's just really really funny but yeah

2259
01:47:11,670 --> 01:47:08,320
Yankee white so there you go breaking

2260
01:47:13,260 --> 01:47:11,680
news on this show that's very

2261
01:47:16,980 --> 01:47:13,270
interesting now if you look at Q

2262
01:47:20,340 --> 01:47:16,990
clearance I mean even Wikipedia gives

2263
01:47:22,170 --> 01:47:20,350
you Q access authorization as a do a

2264
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:22,180
Department of Energy security clearance

2265
01:47:30,050 --> 01:47:24,610
required to access top-secret restricted

2266
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:31,860
it doesn't

2267
01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:35,290
yeah I'm just I'm just going with what I

2268
01:47:42,030 --> 01:47:40,150
was told yeah yeah but and and he was on

2269
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:42,040
the TV show Archer so it's got to be

2270
01:47:47,729 --> 01:47:44,350
treated I know right it's on NCI yes man

2271
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:47,739
I saw it there well let me just finish

2272
01:47:55,340 --> 01:47:51,850
this point on cutoff because I I think

2273
01:47:59,040 --> 01:47:55,350
it's very significant like what he did

2274
01:48:01,380 --> 01:47:59,050
in this area in in soliciting these

2275
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:01,390
papers what he actually did then he went

2276
01:48:06,270 --> 01:48:03,010
to leading experts in various fields

2277
01:48:08,729 --> 01:48:06,280
around the world to get their sense of

2278
01:48:12,419 --> 01:48:08,739
what their field was or would be like in

2279
01:48:14,910 --> 01:48:12,429
2050 as a general survey of different

2280
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:14,920
futures in aerospace and his reasoning

2281
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:16,210
was he felt this would be the best way

2282
01:48:20,010 --> 01:48:18,130
to get the best knowledge we had across

2283
01:48:21,870 --> 01:48:20,020
all these technologies without exposing

2284
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:21,880
why they wanted to know it right

2285
01:48:28,350 --> 01:48:24,130
so this is this is how we operated any

2286
01:48:30,979 --> 01:48:28,360
get at he gets 38 contracts over a

2287
01:48:34,919 --> 01:48:30,989
two-year period for these papers and

2288
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:34,929
there that's the that's the 38 so these

2289
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:38,890
were all cut offs initiative as his

2290
01:48:42,660 --> 01:48:40,810
element as his part of being a

2291
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:42,670
subcontractor to Bigelow who was

2292
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:44,770
subcontracting to the a tip program and

2293
01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:47,920
the papers are are fascinating is the

2294
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:50,830
let me let me jump in Richard yeah is

2295
01:48:57,090 --> 01:48:53,050
this what the 22 million dollars was

2296
01:49:01,140 --> 01:48:57,100
spent on I don't know well maybe in

2297
01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:01,150
theory part I don't say 22 million

2298
01:49:04,939 --> 01:49:03,310
dollars here but um I don't think these

2299
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:04,949
would cost 22 million dollars right

2300
01:49:10,260 --> 01:49:08,380
these papers I don't I don't know how

2301
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:10,270
much money was expended on it but I

2302
01:49:13,729 --> 01:49:11,770
would not think it's significant amount

2303
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:13,739
of money but it came out of that budget

2304
01:49:20,669 --> 01:49:16,170
my understanding is that most of that

2305
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:20,679
money went for study of of the

2306
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:23,290
skinwalker ranch that's what I'm

2307
01:49:28,620 --> 01:49:26,290
understanding which is also part upset

2308
01:49:30,450 --> 01:49:28,630
in this lecture by the way this is in

2309
01:49:34,650 --> 01:49:30,460
the Q&A section I watched this lecture

2310
01:49:35,939 --> 01:49:34,660
very carefully he essentially stated

2311
01:49:38,459 --> 01:49:35,949
without stating it that there were

2312
01:49:40,860 --> 01:49:38,469
multiple programs other than the a tip

2313
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:40,870
like that was the tip of the iceberg as

2314
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:42,130
it were there were lots of other

2315
01:49:46,540 --> 01:49:43,130
programs

2316
01:49:48,970 --> 01:49:46,550
so what was revealed in the New York

2317
01:49:50,650 --> 01:49:48,980
Times piece is do you remember you and I

2318
01:49:52,900 --> 01:49:50,660
talked about this when that when the New

2319
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:52,910
York Times piece came out and I said I

2320
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:55,130
said that this is like cauterizing a

2321
01:49:59,620 --> 01:49:57,890
wound and I think that I was exactly

2322
01:50:01,870 --> 01:49:59,630
right in other words the New York Times

2323
01:50:03,790 --> 01:50:01,880
which is an organization in my view

2324
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:03,800
never to be trusted as a news agency

2325
01:50:09,010 --> 01:50:06,650
ever but they put out this what seems

2326
01:50:11,050 --> 01:50:09,020
like a pretty good story on UFOs back in

2327
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:11,060
December of 2017 and we were all

2328
01:50:16,090 --> 01:50:13,130
thinking wow how did that happen well it

2329
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:16,100
happened because in my view my opinion

2330
01:50:20,110 --> 01:50:17,930
why it happened is that they knew that

2331
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:20,120
story was going to come out because T

2332
01:50:24,940 --> 01:50:22,970
TSA was out putt-off was out there semi

2333
01:50:29,470 --> 01:50:24,950
van and Elizondo we're all we're out

2334
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:29,480
there talking this information about the

2335
01:50:35,620 --> 01:50:33,050
tick-tack UFO and ultimately about these

2336
01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:35,630
these programs and all of this the

2337
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:37,910
papers would have come out and I think

2338
01:50:43,810 --> 01:50:39,770
what the New York Times did was they put

2339
01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:43,820
out a story to make it as small as

2340
01:50:49,930 --> 01:50:46,960
possible and I am NOT trying to malign

2341
01:50:52,830 --> 01:50:49,940
Leslie Kane or the other journalists you

2342
01:50:55,450 --> 01:50:52,840
work with okay but the fact is

2343
01:50:56,740 --> 01:50:55,460
journalists are not the final word on

2344
01:50:57,070 --> 01:50:56,750
these articles that come out in The

2345
01:50:58,750 --> 01:50:57,080
Times

2346
01:51:02,190 --> 01:50:58,760
all right there's always editorial

2347
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:02,200
oversight so that's how it works and I

2348
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:05,690
think what The Times piece was was you

2349
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:08,330
let out as much as you have to when the

2350
01:51:13,900 --> 01:51:11,930
reality is so much more involved but

2351
01:51:16,810 --> 01:51:13,910
back back to the significance of these

2352
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:16,820
papers and is there one that stands out

2353
01:51:21,010 --> 01:51:19,040
there's a bunch of them for me and some

2354
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:21,020
of them I have I actually have the

2355
01:51:28,540 --> 01:51:23,890
reports you know of this too as well but

2356
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:28,550
some of these are well yeah I even used

2357
01:51:32,650 --> 01:51:30,170
the word science fiction with you last

2358
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:32,660
year when you and I were exposed to this

2359
01:51:41,410 --> 01:51:37,610
but interesting reading what stands out

2360
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:41,420
for you here well the the most important

2361
01:51:47,190 --> 01:51:43,970
thing Hume youlet of Lee is why these

2362
01:51:50,530 --> 01:51:47,200
papers were solicited and the reason is

2363
01:51:52,270 --> 01:51:50,540
explicitly to understand potentially how

2364
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:52,280
what we would call UFO technology

2365
01:51:56,770 --> 01:51:55,250
operates all right because the fact was

2366
01:51:59,260 --> 01:51:56,780
and I got this too

2367
01:52:01,540 --> 01:51:59,270
in an email from from hell putt-off and

2368
01:52:03,820 --> 01:52:01,550
he said you know I could I can repeat it

2369
01:52:06,070 --> 01:52:03,830
he just said the most important thing

2370
01:52:08,230 --> 01:52:06,080
this is his words it seems to me is that

2371
01:52:11,140 --> 01:52:08,240
based on the technical sophistication of

2372
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,150
our military platforms the data

2373
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,520
concerning appearance of these advanced

2374
01:52:17,830 --> 01:52:15,440
technologies is no longer in question

2375
01:52:19,980 --> 01:52:17,840
let me just repeat that or paraphrase it

2376
01:52:22,900 --> 01:52:19,990
he's saying that because of the

2377
01:52:26,230 --> 01:52:22,910
technical sophistication of our military

2378
01:52:29,380 --> 01:52:26,240
platforms our ability to obtain data on

2379
01:52:32,710 --> 01:52:29,390
these anomalous objects is so good now

2380
01:52:35,230 --> 01:52:32,720
that the that the data about them is no

2381
01:52:37,330 --> 01:52:35,240
longer in question all right and then he

2382
01:52:39,670 --> 01:52:37,340
says and in the absence of clear

2383
01:52:42,010 --> 01:52:39,680
knowledge of intent of what these

2384
01:52:43,930 --> 01:52:42,020
objects are doing it is a national

2385
01:52:48,430 --> 01:52:43,940
security priority to obtain the best

2386
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:48,440
assessment possible so that that's why

2387
01:52:55,090 --> 01:52:51,890
this whole thing was initiated at least

2388
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:55,100
his part of it and I I just have to say

2389
01:52:59,260 --> 01:52:56,960
you know this work that he did behind

2390
01:53:01,090 --> 01:52:59,270
the scenes to get this type of

2391
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:01,100
information I think is quite admirable

2392
01:53:08,410 --> 01:53:06,290
and important some of these titles like

2393
01:53:14,620 --> 01:53:08,420
number five advanced space propulsion

2394
01:53:18,270 --> 01:53:14,630
based on vacuum full paper here so do I

2395
01:53:22,090 --> 01:53:18,280
it's fascinating space-time metric and

2396
01:53:24,220 --> 01:53:22,100
talking about warping space-time yes

2397
01:53:28,810 --> 01:53:24,230
right that's the whole thing's like to

2398
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:28,820
to change the space-time metric means to

2399
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:32,810
bend space and time are are unify their

2400
01:53:37,020 --> 01:53:34,610
not unified but they're interrelated

2401
01:53:39,700 --> 01:53:37,030
they're not separate and so by

2402
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:39,710
perturbing it or by warping it in some

2403
01:53:45,130 --> 01:53:40,130
way

2404
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:45,140
you are creating an ability to I guess

2405
01:53:50,830 --> 01:53:47,510
we could say move through space in a way

2406
01:53:52,810 --> 01:53:50,840
that's different from general propulsion

2407
01:53:54,430 --> 01:53:52,820
and in a way that makes the speed of

2408
01:53:58,360 --> 01:53:54,440
light barrier incidentally kind of

2409
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,370
irrelevant and then there's uh for me

2410
01:54:03,540 --> 01:54:00,400
really fascinating number nine

2411
01:54:07,790 --> 01:54:03,550
high-frequency gravitational wave

2412
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:07,800
communications by dr. Robert Baker

2413
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:10,650
right like what is a gravitational wave

2414
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:15,890
communication these are highly advanced

2415
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:19,770
beyond next generation technologies as

2416
01:54:24,230 --> 01:54:21,930
Lou Elizondo put the UFOs themselves

2417
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:24,240
beyond next generation and that's what

2418
01:54:28,730 --> 01:54:26,730
these are attempting to understand there

2419
01:54:30,350 --> 01:54:28,740
are some criticisms by the mainstream

2420
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:30,360
scientific community that this is all

2421
01:54:34,220 --> 01:54:31,920
nonsense and a waste of taxpayer money

2422
01:54:35,780 --> 01:54:34,230
and I would just say I don't know where

2423
01:54:38,930 --> 01:54:35,790
they're coming from but this is exactly

2424
01:54:40,910 --> 01:54:38,940
the opposite it's not a waste doing

2425
01:54:43,010 --> 01:54:40,920
these types of studies is is very very

2426
01:54:45,650 --> 01:54:43,020
important and the real thing that you

2427
01:54:48,980 --> 01:54:45,660
know we wonder and I've never I've not

2428
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:48,990
gotten an answer from putt-off on this

2429
01:54:54,740 --> 01:54:52,560
so but is I mean I just have this idea

2430
01:54:56,210 --> 01:54:54,750
this feeling that obviously this is a

2431
01:54:58,670 --> 01:54:56,220
phenomenon that they had been dealing

2432
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,680
with for 70 plus years all right

2433
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:00,480
this isn't like it didn't just appear

2434
01:55:07,070 --> 01:55:04,890
with the tic-tac UFO and I'm always a

2435
01:55:08,510 --> 01:55:07,080
little bit bemused by here people like

2436
01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:08,520
Harry Reid just made a statement a

2437
01:55:13,190 --> 01:55:09,900
couple of weeks ago he's retired now

2438
01:55:15,110 --> 01:55:13,200
from the Senate but he goes out and yes

2439
01:55:16,700 --> 01:55:15,120
it's very good that he goes to the media

2440
01:55:20,900 --> 01:55:16,710
and says we need a congressional hearing

2441
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:20,910
on UFOs great totally yes but they are

2442
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:23,850
all talking like well we don't know what

2443
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:26,250
these things are when in fact there's a

2444
01:55:30,650 --> 01:55:28,410
history of retrieval of crash UFOs

2445
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:30,660
that's a pretty damn good history and

2446
01:55:34,490 --> 01:55:32,730
it's pretty clear-cut that we have

2447
01:55:36,430 --> 01:55:34,500
indeed recovered now one of the things

2448
01:55:39,770 --> 01:55:36,440
as put-off himself has talked about

2449
01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:39,780
retrieved materials and in fact one of

2450
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:42,270
the interesting things about his talk

2451
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:44,730
last summer was this conversation about

2452
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:48,210
the so called meta material and we don't

2453
01:55:51,350 --> 01:55:49,770
have to get into all the detail here but

2454
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:51,360
it's it's quite fascinating

2455
01:55:57,500 --> 01:55:54,410
you know this is a material that was

2456
01:55:59,300 --> 01:55:57,510
obtained and grade there's no Providence

2457
01:56:02,630 --> 01:55:59,310
there's no we have no idea how this

2458
01:56:06,830 --> 01:56:02,640
thing appeared nevertheless so there's

2459
01:56:09,700 --> 01:56:06,840
no chain of custody I guess but it was

2460
01:56:12,050 --> 01:56:09,710
sent I think years ago to art bell and

2461
01:56:14,810 --> 01:56:12,060
so when would that have been in the 90s

2462
01:56:17,090 --> 01:56:14,820
I suppose and it turned out to be so

2463
01:56:19,489 --> 01:56:17,100
unusual it was a multi-layered bismuth

2464
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:19,499
and magnesium sample

2465
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:21,210
the bismuth layers were less than a

2466
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:24,719
human hair and the magnesium samples I

2467
01:56:28,489 --> 01:56:26,010
think he said was something like 10

2468
01:56:29,359 --> 01:56:28,499
times the size of a human hair and just

2469
01:56:31,489 --> 01:56:29,369
layer after layer

2470
01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:31,499
I mean unbelievably sophisticated

2471
01:56:37,580 --> 01:56:33,150
supposedly picked up in a crash

2472
01:56:40,219 --> 01:56:37,590
retrieval I think from the 40s actually

2473
01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:40,229
I think is what it was said so what he

2474
01:56:44,209 --> 01:56:42,320
said about this in his lecture is that

2475
01:56:46,219 --> 01:56:44,219
for the longest time we didn't really

2476
01:56:48,259 --> 01:56:46,229
even know like who could have made this

2477
01:56:51,890 --> 01:56:48,269
they tried to reproduce it they couldn't

2478
01:56:53,899 --> 01:56:51,900
get the layers to bond and when they

2479
01:56:55,370 --> 01:56:53,909
talked to people in the field of

2480
01:56:57,709 --> 01:56:55,380
material science who you would think

2481
01:56:59,479 --> 01:56:57,719
would know they didn't have any idea why

2482
01:57:01,700 --> 01:56:59,489
someone would want to make anything like

2483
01:57:03,500 --> 01:57:01,710
this it wasn't obvious as to what the

2484
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:03,510
function would be and and the

2485
01:57:10,549 --> 01:57:07,010
fascinating thing is decades later

2486
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:10,559
finally he said our science has moved

2487
01:57:17,359 --> 01:57:14,400
along and is beginning to catch up to

2488
01:57:21,439 --> 01:57:17,369
this and it's the area known as meta

2489
01:57:22,939 --> 01:57:21,449
materials and and he said like it turned

2490
01:57:24,739 --> 01:57:22,949
out exactly this combination of

2491
01:57:27,069 --> 01:57:24,749
materials at exactly those dimensions

2492
01:57:30,589 --> 01:57:27,079
turned out to be an excellent

2493
01:57:33,169 --> 01:57:30,599
microscopic waveguide for very high

2494
01:57:35,419 --> 01:57:33,179
frequency electromagnetic radiation

2495
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:35,429
terahertz frequencies and I heard that

2496
01:57:40,069 --> 01:57:37,110
I'm like what does that mean I know

2497
01:57:41,899 --> 01:57:40,079
right we're gonna head towards a break

2498
01:57:44,270 --> 01:57:41,909
and during the break I want you to think

2499
01:57:48,979 --> 01:57:44,280
about what I'm about to say there's also

2500
01:57:51,919 --> 01:57:48,989
a rumor wink-wink that put off has got

2501
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:51,929
some Rendlesham debris and they are

2502
01:57:57,500 --> 01:57:55,650
analyzing that so think about that now

2503
01:58:00,290 --> 01:57:57,510
when we come back Richard I want to know

2504
01:58:02,810 --> 01:58:00,300
who's reading these reports that's

2505
01:58:04,069 --> 01:58:02,820
that's the key here we'll talk about all

2506
01:58:04,969 --> 01:58:04,079
of this when we come back our guest

2507
01:58:06,620 --> 01:58:04,979
tonight Richard Dolan

2508
01:58:09,979 --> 01:58:06,630
this is fade to black on the game

2509
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changer network and kgr a the planet

2510
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stay with us

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2609
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2610
02:02:27,850 --> 02:02:25,719
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2611
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2615
02:02:48,820 --> 02:02:46,690
this is fade to black

2616
02:02:52,510 --> 02:02:48,830
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2617
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:52,520
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2620
02:03:10,270 --> 02:03:08,310
welcome back painted black I'm your semi

2621
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:10,280
church our guest tonight Richard Dolan

2622
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:13,110
great conversations and I always expect

2623
02:03:18,740 --> 02:03:16,290
that with Richard though he always

2624
02:03:20,750 --> 02:03:18,750
delivers on the GameChanger network and

2625
02:03:23,030 --> 02:03:20,760
KCRA the planet you can follow me on

2626
02:03:26,210 --> 02:03:23,040
twitter at JD oh you can also follow

2627
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Richard at rich Dolan I remember years

2628
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:29,070
ago rich you forgot that you had a

2629
02:03:38,900 --> 02:03:32,970
Twitter account I remember yeah I think

2630
02:03:40,550 --> 02:03:38,910
I do I don't really follow it oh man

2631
02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:40,560
one day it's going to be a Twitter world

2632
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:42,750
and it has certainly arrived okay

2633
02:03:48,530 --> 02:03:45,930
Richard back to these reports and also

2634
02:03:50,450 --> 02:03:48,540
tonight I want to try to get in a little

2635
02:03:52,310 --> 02:03:50,460
conversation about a project Bluebook

2636
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:52,320
too as well I want to I want to try to

2637
02:03:57,140 --> 02:03:54,450
swing back in that direction but these

2638
02:04:00,200 --> 02:03:57,150
reports are obviously important but

2639
02:04:01,790 --> 02:04:00,210
they're only worth anything if

2640
02:04:04,010 --> 02:04:01,800
somebody's reading them who's reading

2641
02:04:06,500 --> 02:04:04,020
these reports well they're not in the

2642
02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:06,510
public domain by and large I think some

2643
02:04:11,660 --> 02:04:08,400
of them have leaked out some of them

2644
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:11,670
have been published as genuine at white

2645
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:13,770
papers and their fields peer-reviewed

2646
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:16,290
that type of thing what I learned is

2647
02:04:22,250 --> 02:04:17,730
most of them are just sitting in a

2648
02:04:24,410 --> 02:04:22,260
defense server I think it's called the

2649
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:24,420
Jay wicks server I had to look that up

2650
02:04:32,690 --> 02:04:31,050
and it stands for joint weapons wait I'm

2651
02:04:35,420 --> 02:04:32,700
looking for it here anyway it's in a

2652
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:35,430
it's in a particular server I had it

2653
02:04:39,070 --> 02:04:37,110
right here and now here I can't find it

2654
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:39,080
yeah our joint worldwide intelligence

2655
02:04:44,380 --> 02:04:41,850
communications system so it's

2656
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:44,390
technically on there technically

2657
02:04:50,900 --> 02:04:49,290
unclassified so what that means is they

2658
02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:50,910
are available through FOIA like you

2659
02:04:55,550 --> 02:04:54,030
could you could get them I believe I

2660
02:04:58,250 --> 02:04:55,560
believe and how many people have really

2661
02:05:00,260 --> 02:04:58,260
tried probably the simplest thing since

2662
02:05:01,370 --> 02:05:00,270
the papers are now out the titles are in

2663
02:05:03,260 --> 02:05:01,380
the public domain you can probably just

2664
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:03,270
write to these people and ask for them

2665
02:05:09,410 --> 02:05:05,970
they very well might be able to do that

2666
02:05:12,020 --> 02:05:09,420
but the only one that I have a full copy

2667
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:12,030
of is is PUD offs actual paper which

2668
02:05:16,820 --> 02:05:15,450
believe it or not I read or at least you

2669
02:05:18,950 --> 02:05:16,830
know without the equations I can't

2670
02:05:19,729 --> 02:05:18,960
really get to those but it's fascinating

2671
02:05:21,790 --> 02:05:19,739
but

2672
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:21,800
Engineering the bat the vacuum I just

2673
02:05:27,709 --> 02:05:25,890
amazing stuff but who what's important

2674
02:05:32,060 --> 02:05:27,719
here is if you're gonna write the report

2675
02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:32,070
and and study these subjects well they

2676
02:05:36,620 --> 02:05:34,320
need to be read by the scientific

2677
02:05:38,570 --> 02:05:36,630
community well yeah yeah yes the whole

2678
02:05:40,610 --> 02:05:38,580
point of them of course is it for them

2679
02:05:42,729 --> 02:05:40,620
to be read by the military right right

2680
02:05:46,370 --> 02:05:42,739
there's a reason that they existed and

2681
02:05:49,940 --> 02:05:46,380
the one thing that I can say he put off

2682
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:49,950
road to me and just said for the record

2683
02:05:54,530 --> 02:05:51,450
it where is this now here he says these

2684
02:05:57,530 --> 02:05:54,540
oh here it is I'm told that this set of

2685
02:06:01,420 --> 02:05:57,540
papers remains the most accessed series

2686
02:06:04,190 --> 02:06:01,430
to this date in the in the Jay wakes

2687
02:06:06,830 --> 02:06:04,200
server because of their technical

2688
02:06:09,170 --> 02:06:06,840
content they've become the Bible he says

2689
02:06:12,170 --> 02:06:09,180
for technical people these papers are

2690
02:06:15,500 --> 02:06:12,180
very very highly regarded but the

2691
02:06:17,959 --> 02:06:15,510
purpose of them was totally for military

2692
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:17,969
people to get a handle on UFO tech

2693
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:20,090
however that doesn't mean that these

2694
02:06:25,250 --> 02:06:22,890
won't come out I think they need to come

2695
02:06:27,860 --> 02:06:25,260
out people need to understand now there

2696
02:06:30,140 --> 02:06:27,870
are speculative by their nature but they

2697
02:06:32,570 --> 02:06:30,150
seem to be highly regarded within within

2698
02:06:34,970 --> 02:06:32,580
the military so I mean he'll here's one

2699
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:34,980
warp drive dark energy and the

2700
02:06:38,780 --> 02:06:37,110
manipulation of extra dimensions I mean

2701
02:06:41,479 --> 02:06:38,790
good grief and here we are you know the

2702
02:06:45,740 --> 02:06:41,489
art field gets so worked up with stupid

2703
02:06:48,110 --> 02:06:45,750
banal drama which by the way look when

2704
02:06:50,780 --> 02:06:48,120
there are bad things that happen in this

2705
02:06:54,590 --> 02:06:50,790
field it's very important to call it out

2706
02:06:57,010 --> 02:06:54,600
so don't get me wrong there but the fact

2707
02:07:01,010 --> 02:06:57,020
is that there's so much of substance in

2708
02:07:03,170 --> 02:07:01,020
the field of UFO research that is right

2709
02:07:06,050 --> 02:07:03,180
there right there in front of us begging

2710
02:07:08,420 --> 02:07:06,060
to be discussed and I just think that

2711
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:08,430
we're better served by focusing on the

2712
02:07:15,590 --> 02:07:11,010
substance well no Eric Dave is very

2713
02:07:18,970 --> 02:07:15,600
prolific very smart guy and the DIA and

2714
02:07:22,220 --> 02:07:18,980
their servers has a report titled

2715
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:22,230
transversal wormholes stargates and

2716
02:07:30,020 --> 02:07:25,770
negative energy right what's that all

2717
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:30,030
about Star Trek Deep Space nine

2718
02:07:35,420 --> 02:07:33,450
exactly exactly except that they're

2719
02:07:39,650 --> 02:07:35,430
talking about it for real and again

2720
02:07:42,070 --> 02:07:39,660
speculative but but scientist in any way

2721
02:07:46,250 --> 02:07:42,080
scientifically sound speculation and a

2722
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:46,260
roadmap for future directions very

2723
02:07:51,620 --> 02:07:49,890
possibly the the list is is about as

2724
02:07:53,390 --> 02:07:51,630
fascinating as it gets I put it out

2725
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:53,400
there on Twitter and everybody can go

2726
02:07:57,460 --> 02:07:55,290
and access the server it's it's all

2727
02:07:59,600 --> 02:07:57,470
right here and by the way you mentioned

2728
02:08:01,370 --> 02:07:59,610
the rumors about the Rendlesham

2729
02:08:03,410 --> 02:08:01,380
something when the renders from being

2730
02:08:05,900 --> 02:08:03,420
studied by earth tech I don't know about

2731
02:08:08,060 --> 02:08:05,910
that but one of the papers paper number

2732
02:08:11,690 --> 02:08:08,070
12 by dr. Kip green who's another very

2733
02:08:14,060 --> 02:08:11,700
famous individual longtime CIA his paper

2734
02:08:16,820 --> 02:08:14,070
is on field effects on biological

2735
02:08:19,010 --> 02:08:16,830
tissues and I mentioned Rendlesham

2736
02:08:20,810 --> 02:08:19,020
because of course famously there have

2737
02:08:24,860 --> 02:08:20,820
been people and involved in that case

2738
02:08:27,530 --> 02:08:24,870
who have suffered damage to biological

2739
02:08:30,620 --> 02:08:27,540
tissues and this is a very very

2740
02:08:32,330 --> 02:08:30,630
well-known thing and so I and you know

2741
02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:32,340
you get this in the condign report from

2742
02:08:36,590 --> 02:08:34,490
the late 1990s that also was

2743
02:08:39,500 --> 02:08:36,600
Declassified and from what I understand

2744
02:08:43,510 --> 02:08:39,510
almost accidentally Declassified in the

2745
02:08:46,910 --> 02:08:43,520
early 2000s that report talked about

2746
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:46,920
biological effects from these UAP on

2747
02:08:53,050 --> 02:08:49,890
human beings so here we have a paper by

2748
02:08:55,940 --> 02:08:53,060
dr. KITT green on field effects on

2749
02:08:57,650 --> 02:08:55,950
biological tissues what do we do

2750
02:09:00,890 --> 02:08:57,660
Richard you've been writing about this

2751
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:00,900
and studying this for so long now what

2752
02:09:07,670 --> 02:09:04,170
do we do with guys like KITT green and

2753
02:09:11,540 --> 02:09:07,680
and semi van and and others you know

2754
02:09:14,410 --> 02:09:11,550
justice where their affiliations that

2755
02:09:20,090 --> 02:09:14,420
even goes to Lewis Elizondo to as well

2756
02:09:22,580 --> 02:09:20,100
where they their associations worth

2757
02:09:24,860 --> 02:09:22,590
directly with with the CIA and with the

2758
02:09:28,340 --> 02:09:24,870
DIA for years and years and years and

2759
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:28,350
suddenly we are being forced into a

2760
02:09:33,890 --> 02:09:30,930
position of trust here and that now we

2761
02:09:36,020 --> 02:09:33,900
need to accept what they are putting out

2762
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:36,030
there what do we do with that I mean

2763
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:38,490
yeah I mean the CIA obviously has a long

2764
02:09:42,340 --> 02:09:40,800
long history of some really diabolical

2765
02:09:45,490 --> 02:09:42,350
things that it does

2766
02:09:48,430 --> 02:09:45,500
whether it's regime change or MKULTRA

2767
02:09:49,870 --> 02:09:48,440
mind control or you know any number of

2768
02:09:53,050 --> 02:09:49,880
other things that are just horrible

2769
02:09:56,650 --> 02:09:53,060
rendition programs that's what the CIA

2770
02:09:58,690 --> 02:09:56,660
is done and the CIA is is not this you

2771
02:10:01,870 --> 02:09:58,700
know I mean the of course the corporate

2772
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:01,880
media now is portraying the CIA as you

2773
02:10:07,930 --> 02:10:04,400
know these angels which they're anything

2774
02:10:09,370 --> 02:10:07,940
but having said that it's a truism and

2775
02:10:11,380 --> 02:10:09,380
you know people say this all the time

2776
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:11,390
that there are always good people in all

2777
02:10:15,820 --> 02:10:14,210
of these organizations it's really true

2778
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:15,830
there aren't they're not and people

2779
02:10:19,150 --> 02:10:17,690
aren't themselves evil all the time when

2780
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:19,160
they work for these the organization's

2781
02:10:23,290 --> 02:10:21,530
do terrible things I don't know the

2782
02:10:25,530 --> 02:10:23,300
other end of individuals personally but

2783
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:25,540
I do know cut off personally and I

2784
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:28,250
absolutely believe he's a good guy I

2785
02:10:32,500 --> 02:10:30,170
don't believe he's on the bad side and

2786
02:10:36,270 --> 02:10:32,510
you know was gonna convince me otherwise

2787
02:10:37,900 --> 02:10:36,280
I've had too many meaningful

2788
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:37,910
conversations with them to think

2789
02:10:44,500 --> 02:10:40,400
otherwise but in this case though well

2790
02:10:47,590 --> 02:10:44,510
we're dealing with is that these people

2791
02:10:49,930 --> 02:10:47,600
are allowed to give out the information

2792
02:10:52,180 --> 02:10:49,940
that they're giving and the question

2793
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:52,190
that we want to ask is why are they are

2794
02:10:58,810 --> 02:10:55,610
they allowed now to do it is the whole

2795
02:11:01,570 --> 02:10:58,820
thing that's all things should we should

2796
02:11:08,500 --> 02:11:01,580
we allow some time to pass here before

2797
02:11:10,990 --> 02:11:08,510
we go into you know our trust the thing

2798
02:11:13,630 --> 02:11:11,000
is if they're releasing information then

2799
02:11:16,030 --> 02:11:13,640
we can have the opportunity to look at

2800
02:11:17,380 --> 02:11:16,040
that information so if they're making

2801
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:17,390
state if you have a guy like putt-off

2802
02:11:24,220 --> 02:11:20,810
who's saying the UAP phenomenon is so

2803
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:24,230
significant that we are we had contracts

2804
02:11:29,890 --> 02:11:26,810
for 38 high-level speculative papers on

2805
02:11:33,580 --> 02:11:29,900
UFO tech that is significant that's an

2806
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:33,590
that's a significant admission that we

2807
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:35,810
can then work with and then move on it

2808
02:11:39,610 --> 02:11:37,490
has nothing to do with trust oh I think

2809
02:11:43,510 --> 02:11:39,620
it does and let me tell you why like

2810
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:43,520
tell me why okay okay it's this simple

2811
02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:48,050
the CIA comes knocking on your door at

2812
02:11:54,580 --> 02:11:50,950
your home right there the Dolan house

2813
02:11:55,729 --> 02:11:54,590
it's not because they want to be friends

2814
02:11:59,150 --> 02:11:55,739
and take you out to dinner

2815
02:12:03,229 --> 02:11:59,160
there is a serious issue going on here

2816
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:03,239
and it's not on the good side and so

2817
02:12:08,900 --> 02:12:05,610
here leave that generic statement it is

2818
02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:08,910
it and look if the CIA is involved in

2819
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:11,520
your life then you got some issues and

2820
02:12:16,610 --> 02:12:13,650
what I am trying to say and it's not

2821
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:16,620
it's not good issues but what I'm trying

2822
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:19,530
to say here is this now when we're

2823
02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:21,690
dealing with the UFO subject and

2824
02:12:28,430 --> 02:12:25,320
suddenly the CIA is and members of the

2825
02:12:31,010 --> 02:12:28,440
CIA xci are suddenly in this community

2826
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:31,020
being our friends we need to take a step

2827
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:33,690
back and not embrace who said anything

2828
02:12:37,310 --> 02:12:36,690
about friends certainly not me it was

2829
02:12:48,620 --> 02:12:37,320
motivation

2830
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:48,630
what matters is what is the information

2831
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:51,330
that they are providing us at this time

2832
02:12:55,910 --> 02:12:53,760
and is it actionable is it can it be

2833
02:12:59,390 --> 02:12:55,920
fact checked can it be investigated and

2834
02:13:02,360 --> 02:12:59,400
if it's new information then hell let's

2835
02:13:04,010 --> 02:13:02,370
look at that information and as I'm

2836
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:04,020
seeing it anyway from where I'm sitting

2837
02:13:09,260 --> 02:13:06,810
this is new information and it's worth

2838
02:13:11,479 --> 02:13:09,270
knowing so I consider it significant

2839
02:13:12,860 --> 02:13:11,489
just does he have his own motivations

2840
02:13:16,070 --> 02:13:12,870
does he want to make a trillion dollars

2841
02:13:16,310 --> 02:13:16,080
on leading-edge technology hell if I

2842
02:13:20,420 --> 02:13:16,320
know

2843
02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:20,430
maybe so no yeah that's what I care

2844
02:13:22,370 --> 02:13:21,330
about it sure

2845
02:13:25,370 --> 02:13:22,380
what is the information we're getting

2846
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:25,380
yeah that's not yeah yeah I'm not even

2847
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:27,570
going down that road people are getting

2848
02:13:33,020 --> 02:13:30,719
very worked up over whatever motivations

2849
02:13:35,540 --> 02:13:33,030
they they divine or happening here and

2850
02:13:38,300 --> 02:13:35,550
that's fine you want to know motivations

2851
02:13:39,950 --> 02:13:38,310
but I I'm going to suggest that we're at

2852
02:13:41,630 --> 02:13:39,960
a point in our conversation it's not

2853
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:41,640
just about this it's about everything

2854
02:13:44,959 --> 02:13:43,770
we're motivations our scene is more

2855
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:44,969
important than the actual information

2856
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:47,610
that's a bad place to be in right you

2857
02:13:51,979 --> 02:13:49,290
want to be you got to remind yourself

2858
02:13:53,770 --> 02:13:51,989
what actually matters what matters is

2859
02:13:56,540 --> 02:13:53,780
the data what matters is the information

2860
02:13:58,880 --> 02:13:56,550
you think these are all good guys of

2861
02:14:02,120 --> 02:13:58,890
course not I don't think that what I

2862
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:02,130
don't care what I'm caring about is what

2863
02:14:06,229 --> 02:14:03,570
are they telling us that we can learn

2864
02:14:08,780 --> 02:14:06,239
and the answer I think at least in this

2865
02:14:09,379 --> 02:14:08,790
case is a lot and and put off in

2866
02:14:12,109 --> 02:14:09,389
particular

2867
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:12,119
is someone worth listening to as

2868
02:14:16,910 --> 02:14:14,850
carefully as you can listen he's worth

2869
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:16,920
he's worth the attention yeah I'm hoping

2870
02:14:26,090 --> 02:14:21,810
that in this is my take is that we need

2871
02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:26,100
to allow some time to pass here before

2872
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:31,710
we get too too too friendly and in

2873
02:14:35,479 --> 02:14:34,050
accepting in two years from now we can

2874
02:14:37,459 --> 02:14:35,489
look back with something of what though

2875
02:14:38,209 --> 02:14:37,469
like I'm just gonna ask you what what do

2876
02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,219
you mean

2877
02:14:44,810 --> 02:14:40,320
like accepting that these 38 papers

2878
02:14:48,020 --> 02:14:44,820
exist yeah why why exactly why why leak

2879
02:14:51,169 --> 02:14:48,030
this why release this why release any of

2880
02:14:54,109 --> 02:14:51,179
this information over the last year why

2881
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:54,119
do any of that why bring Luis Elizondo

2882
02:15:02,510 --> 02:14:59,040
forward why do any of this so sudden you

2883
02:15:04,609 --> 02:15:02,520
know and and that's that's a you know

2884
02:15:07,820 --> 02:15:04,619
justice is impossible here's one

2885
02:15:09,470 --> 02:15:07,830
scenario is it possible that there are

2886
02:15:12,290 --> 02:15:09,480
people in the intelligence community who

2887
02:15:15,050 --> 02:15:12,300
have had their own experiences who

2888
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:15,060
personally believe that the subject is

2889
02:15:21,500 --> 02:15:19,040
worthy of public discourse and who are

2890
02:15:24,379 --> 02:15:21,510
using whatever levers that they have

2891
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:24,389
limited though they are to move this

2892
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:26,850
issue forward is that a possibility it

2893
02:15:30,979 --> 02:15:29,250
is a possibility yeah it is maybe maybe

2894
02:15:33,350 --> 02:15:30,989
that's a reasonable assumption to work

2895
02:15:36,220 --> 02:15:33,360
off of and if someone can disprove that

2896
02:15:38,750 --> 02:15:36,230
possibility fine if they've got a

2897
02:15:40,729 --> 02:15:38,760
multi-billion dollar you know Austin

2898
02:15:43,490 --> 02:15:40,739
Powers control the world type of agenda

2899
02:15:46,479 --> 02:15:43,500
then fine we can figure out what that is

2900
02:15:48,410 --> 02:15:46,489
but for me what I would say is

2901
02:15:50,810 --> 02:15:48,420
motivations are important you want to

2902
02:15:53,899 --> 02:15:50,820
know them but don't let's not lose sight

2903
02:15:56,090 --> 02:15:53,909
over the information that is being

2904
02:15:58,820 --> 02:15:56,100
released whether they are the tic-tac

2905
02:16:00,560 --> 02:15:58,830
video or the other videos that people

2906
02:16:03,950 --> 02:16:00,570
that love to argue about are they legit

2907
02:16:05,330 --> 02:16:03,960
are they not legit or the data that

2908
02:16:08,450 --> 02:16:05,340
they're putting out the studies that

2909
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:08,460
were you know George Knapp I think it

2910
02:16:14,479 --> 02:16:12,570
was earlier in the year in 2018 got an

2911
02:16:17,570 --> 02:16:14,489
in-depth report this is clearly out of

2912
02:16:19,390 --> 02:16:17,580
out of Bigelow's the subcontractor for

2913
02:16:22,399 --> 02:16:19,400
the tic-tac and they're talking about

2914
02:16:22,850 --> 02:16:22,409
the the AAV was not something that

2915
02:16:24,620 --> 02:16:22,860
belong

2916
02:16:26,260 --> 02:16:24,630
to the US or any other nation so

2917
02:16:28,609 --> 02:16:26,270
advanced it rendered our capabilities

2918
02:16:31,700 --> 02:16:28,619
ineffective obsolete like these

2919
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:31,710
statements are now coming out so those

2920
02:16:36,259 --> 02:16:34,530
are important statements like in other

2921
02:16:39,290 --> 02:16:36,269
words what we're getting is a kind of

2922
02:16:41,900 --> 02:16:39,300
drip drip of confirmation of this

2923
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:41,910
phenomenon and it's happening right

2924
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:45,210
before our eyes and I'm just saying let

2925
02:16:52,969 --> 02:16:49,519
us not lose sight of this significant

2926
02:16:55,730 --> 02:16:52,979
development in our history yeah it's the

2927
02:16:57,889 --> 02:16:55,740
CIA we all know that we all know that we

2928
02:17:01,580 --> 02:16:57,899
can't trust everything that they do but

2929
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:01,590
the fact is these statements are coming

2930
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:03,840
out about these cavies as they're

2931
02:17:08,389 --> 02:17:05,519
calling them anomalous hairy vehicles

2932
02:17:10,669 --> 02:17:08,399
being unlike anything that that we have

2933
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:10,679
which by the way behind the scenes

2934
02:17:15,080 --> 02:17:13,200
quietly these people have been talking

2935
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:15,090
about for years and decades like

2936
02:17:21,099 --> 02:17:17,370
everyone knows this everyone knows that

2937
02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:21,109
they've they've been confronting a

2938
02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:25,760
phenomenon that they can't duplicate and

2939
02:17:31,700 --> 02:17:29,570
so now we're getting statements very

2940
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,710
much along these lines that are saying

2941
02:17:36,740 --> 02:17:33,840
this except now that they're coming out

2942
02:17:38,599 --> 02:17:36,750
in the public so this is a significant

2943
02:17:40,910 --> 02:17:38,609
thing it's an important development and

2944
02:17:43,250 --> 02:17:40,920
this is why I think the scientific

2945
02:17:45,099 --> 02:17:43,260
studies and by the way it's not just put

2946
02:17:47,839 --> 02:17:45,109
off talking about this there's a great

2947
02:17:50,299 --> 02:17:47,849
YouTube video by dr. Jack Sarfati

2948
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:50,309
just from a month or so ago where he is

2949
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:53,130
talking about the physics of the tic-tac

2950
02:17:59,330 --> 02:17:56,490
UFO and I highly recommend it to people

2951
02:18:01,969 --> 02:17:59,340
who are not professional physicists he

2952
02:18:04,459 --> 02:18:01,979
does a very very fine job of explaining

2953
02:18:06,679 --> 02:18:04,469
the physics of how these objects

2954
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:06,689
possibly work and he also is talking

2955
02:18:10,969 --> 02:18:09,210
about the meta materials and how they

2956
02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:10,979
serve essentially as a kind of a

2957
02:18:16,250 --> 02:18:14,370
waveguide - as he calls it soften the

2958
02:18:18,139 --> 02:18:16,260
space-time boundary around the capsule

2959
02:18:20,500 --> 02:18:18,149
around the object it's just fascinating

2960
02:18:23,570 --> 02:18:20,510
so in other words the scientific

2961
02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:23,580
conversations are moving forward on this

2962
02:18:29,179 --> 02:18:27,120
and that's the kind of that's what we've

2963
02:18:30,620 --> 02:18:29,189
got to keep our eyes on you know the

2964
02:18:32,599 --> 02:18:30,630
information is coming out and the

2965
02:18:36,679 --> 02:18:32,609
science is being discussed in a

2966
02:18:40,309 --> 02:18:36,689
sophisticated way if I if I sat down

2967
02:18:44,689 --> 02:18:40,319
with with melon or justice or Elizondo

2968
02:18:47,689 --> 02:18:44,699
or or Hal right any or kit Green or semi

2969
02:18:49,879 --> 02:18:47,699
van I sat down with all of them sitting

2970
02:18:52,129 --> 02:18:49,889
in front of me I would I would make the

2971
02:18:57,319 --> 02:18:52,139
same general statement to all of them

2972
02:19:00,649 --> 02:18:57,329
either either you have you know that

2973
02:19:04,370 --> 02:19:00,659
this is off world you know this as a

2974
02:19:07,129 --> 02:19:04,380
fact or you don't but don't but don't

2975
02:19:10,129 --> 02:19:07,139
don't run down the middle and say if we

2976
02:19:12,500 --> 02:19:10,139
need to investigate we need to do this

2977
02:19:15,379 --> 02:19:12,510
is all public public consumption I'm

2978
02:19:17,330 --> 02:19:15,389
certain right right now and I'm not I'm

2979
02:19:19,519 --> 02:19:17,340
not officially speaking for anyone but

2980
02:19:22,429 --> 02:19:19,529
I'm just gonna say they know of course

2981
02:19:25,219 --> 02:19:22,439
they know of course they know they know

2982
02:19:26,540 --> 02:19:25,229
it's real someone's here that's not

2983
02:19:27,979 --> 02:19:26,550
supposed to be here that's not part of

2984
02:19:30,319 --> 02:19:27,989
our civilization yeah of course they

2985
02:19:32,929 --> 02:19:30,329
have to know that and in fact if you

2986
02:19:36,439 --> 02:19:32,939
really go into put offs speech last

2987
02:19:39,859 --> 02:19:36,449
summer he's basically saying that you

2988
02:19:44,209 --> 02:19:39,869
know he's saying that all but saying

2989
02:19:46,580 --> 02:19:44,219
it's extraterrestrial just read read the

2990
02:19:51,260 --> 02:19:46,590
statement carefully Steve Bassett put

2991
02:19:52,880 --> 02:19:51,270
out a very nice synopsis and I guess you

2992
02:19:54,649 --> 02:19:52,890
could say trans translation or

2993
02:19:57,769 --> 02:19:54,659
transliteration of cutoffs

2994
02:20:00,559 --> 02:19:57,779
speech so it's available for people to

2995
02:20:04,609 --> 02:20:00,569
read on a paradigm research

2996
02:20:05,899 --> 02:20:04,619
Bassets website and it's you know it's

2997
02:20:08,210 --> 02:20:05,909
very very straightforward like these

2998
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:08,220
people clearly believe that it's

2999
02:20:11,239 --> 02:20:09,600
extraterrestrial but they're also in a

3000
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:11,249
position it's like read is in a position

3001
02:20:15,529 --> 02:20:12,930
where he's got to say like well we don't

3002
02:20:18,109 --> 02:20:15,539
really know what it is they have to know

3003
02:20:22,330 --> 02:20:18,119
what it is this phenomenon has has been

3004
02:20:24,469 --> 02:20:22,340
in their face for 70 plus years now so

3005
02:20:29,029 --> 02:20:24,479
but they're also dealing with a

3006
02:20:31,370 --> 02:20:29,039
corporate media establishment that's you

3007
02:20:32,899 --> 02:20:31,380
know you you don't just go say this from

3008
02:20:35,660 --> 02:20:32,909
the rooftops saying ads it's real

3009
02:20:37,189 --> 02:20:35,670
they're here people big you know Robert

3010
02:20:39,229 --> 02:20:37,199
Bigelow says having a few other people

3011
02:20:41,359 --> 02:20:39,239
say that but most of these guys they're

3012
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,369
not going to say that explicitly so they

3013
02:20:45,769 --> 02:20:43,680
they play it safe they play the game

3014
02:20:48,780 --> 02:20:45,779
with the media with the public and

3015
02:20:51,719 --> 02:20:48,790
that's how it works yeah

3016
02:20:52,410 --> 02:20:51,729
I I don't understand it when when am we

3017
02:20:56,309 --> 02:20:52,420
looking

3018
02:20:58,769 --> 02:20:56,319
well I understand the POTUS or or world

3019
02:21:03,540 --> 02:20:58,779
you know state you know leaders I

3020
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:03,550
understand their position on it I wish

3021
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:05,920
that their position was different but if

3022
02:21:13,650 --> 02:21:10,810
I as somebody that is not running a

3023
02:21:17,639 --> 02:21:13,660
country if I'm somebody else if I'm a

3024
02:21:20,040 --> 02:21:17,649
melon or if I am in Elizondo or a

3025
02:21:21,870 --> 02:21:20,050
justice if I'm any of these and I have

3026
02:21:25,769 --> 02:21:21,880
the the definitive proof

3027
02:21:27,450 --> 02:21:25,779
I'm the martyr you know what maybe but

3028
02:21:29,099 --> 02:21:27,460
know what none of those guys want to be

3029
02:21:31,019 --> 02:21:29,109
martyrs now I had a conversation once

3030
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:31,029
with someone this wasn't with upon off

3031
02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:32,290
it was someone else but who had

3032
02:21:36,929 --> 02:21:35,140
classified background and just said to

3033
02:21:39,300 --> 02:21:36,939
me you know I know for a fact this is

3034
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:39,310
real and I was briefed and I have this

3035
02:21:42,929 --> 02:21:40,960
such-and-such information about the

3036
02:21:46,490 --> 02:21:42,939
reality of this phenomenon and bodies

3037
02:21:50,550 --> 02:21:46,500
and so forth and and it was very obvious

3038
02:21:52,019 --> 02:21:50,560
was they were not in a position where

3039
02:21:53,250 --> 02:21:52,029
they felt they could talk about it he

3040
02:21:56,250 --> 02:21:53,260
said like look if I go to the New York

3041
02:21:57,960 --> 02:21:56,260
Times right and talk about this a are

3042
02:21:59,700 --> 02:21:57,970
they going to publish it be if they do

3043
02:22:02,370 --> 02:21:59,710
it'll be traced right back to me and I

3044
02:22:04,380 --> 02:22:02,380
lose every clearance I ever had and I

3045
02:22:07,469 --> 02:22:04,390
lose my career in my profession so what

3046
02:22:09,900 --> 02:22:07,479
aside from aside from maybe going to

3047
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:09,910
prison so why is that information well

3048
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:11,830
everyone wants to be a martyr yeah but

3049
02:22:17,219 --> 02:22:14,080
you would be the most famous person ever

3050
02:22:19,590 --> 02:22:17,229
for the rest of the the time of the

3051
02:22:21,420 --> 02:22:19,600
universe you know and that's the truth

3052
02:22:24,210 --> 02:22:21,430
you'd have to be able to prove it okay

3053
02:22:25,860 --> 02:22:24,220
so these are difficult things like it's

3054
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:25,870
not the easiest position to be in

3055
02:22:32,250 --> 02:22:29,290
okay Dolan you go to a right path you

3056
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:32,260
get taken down eight floors below and

3057
02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:34,240
you walk in and you look at the saucer

3058
02:22:37,950 --> 02:22:35,680
and then they walk by and they go check

3059
02:22:39,059 --> 02:22:37,960
it out here's some uniforms that's an et

3060
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:39,069
over there in the tank

3061
02:22:42,540 --> 02:22:40,930
check this out here's their badges

3062
02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:42,550
here's this Souza and you turn around

3063
02:22:47,099 --> 02:22:45,520
and you slip into your pocket the

3064
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:47,109
evidence right and you get out and

3065
02:22:51,960 --> 02:22:48,970
you're done you're a free man

3066
02:22:56,849 --> 02:22:51,970
you get off of the base do you go public

3067
02:22:58,530 --> 02:22:56,859
I would if I yes I would if I felt that

3068
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:58,540
the evidence I acquired would be

3069
02:23:02,189 --> 02:23:00,640
sufficient to convince the world yeah is

3070
02:23:03,660 --> 02:23:02,199
it's a laser gun

3071
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:03,670
you know you know what I mean but but

3072
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:05,170
but I'm on portable that's such a

3073
02:23:10,979 --> 02:23:09,010
fantasy situation but if it did I'm

3074
02:23:13,260 --> 02:23:10,989
saying not something that's really

3075
02:23:15,389 --> 02:23:13,270
realistic would you go public do you

3076
02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:15,399
have the press conference of course you

3077
02:23:18,899 --> 02:23:17,290
do yeah all right so what's the

3078
02:23:21,780 --> 02:23:18,909
difference between any of these other

3079
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:21,790
cats you know there's nothing I mean why

3080
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:23,290
can't get inside their head I can't

3081
02:23:26,670 --> 02:23:24,880
speak with him I don't know right and I

3082
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:26,680
don't know most of them so I wouldn't

3083
02:23:30,599 --> 02:23:29,050
really be able to tell you whatever we

3084
02:23:32,250 --> 02:23:30,609
got there they got their motivations

3085
02:23:33,780 --> 02:23:32,260
they're worried about their kids they're

3086
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:33,790
worried about their retirement who the

3087
02:23:37,530 --> 02:23:35,770
hell knows they they've got their they

3088
02:23:40,260 --> 02:23:37,540
don't want to get into trouble whatever

3089
02:23:42,179 --> 02:23:40,270
it is put off said in his lecture he

3090
02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:42,189
says look I'm able to talk about this

3091
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:44,800
element of it because I can finally do

3092
02:23:49,139 --> 02:23:46,479
it talk about the details and not go to

3093
02:23:51,660 --> 02:23:49,149
jail like this actually literally what

3094
02:23:53,610 --> 02:23:51,670
he said this is the first chance he had

3095
02:23:55,349 --> 02:23:53,620
to appear before the public and talk

3096
02:23:57,149 --> 02:23:55,359
about the details of the program and not

3097
02:23:59,790 --> 02:23:57,159
go to jail can you imagine their kids

3098
02:24:04,950 --> 02:23:59,800
you would be the most rockin dude in

3099
02:24:07,229 --> 02:24:04,960
school your dad your dad exposed UFOs to

3100
02:24:10,050 --> 02:24:07,239
us you would be how can you imagine the

3101
02:24:11,790 --> 02:24:10,060
senior prom well my kids when they were

3102
02:24:14,219 --> 02:24:11,800
teenagers certainly didn't get any

3103
02:24:16,019 --> 02:24:14,229
benefit from from having their dad as a

3104
02:24:17,580 --> 02:24:16,029
UFO researcher except some of their

3105
02:24:20,729 --> 02:24:17,590
friends thought it was cool I will just

3106
02:24:23,250 --> 02:24:20,739
say that but yeah yeah my daughters have

3107
02:24:25,559 --> 02:24:23,260
no benefit for my career for sure I

3108
02:24:27,179 --> 02:24:25,569
wanted to talk about you do you want to

3109
02:24:30,269 --> 02:24:27,189
hang on and talk about Project Blue Book

3110
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:30,279
is going it's a little late here in the

3111
02:24:35,610 --> 02:24:33,010
East Coast but I'm gonna she's looking

3112
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:35,620
at me and I'm just gonna stay up yeah at

3113
02:24:39,929 --> 02:24:37,359
Tracy go make him a shot of espresso

3114
02:24:42,809 --> 02:24:39,939
let's let's do this the right way yeah I

3115
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:42,819
do I do want to talk about that and the

3116
02:24:48,660 --> 02:24:45,010
reason that the blue book series I'm

3117
02:24:52,740 --> 02:24:48,670
yeah yeah and the reason why I want to

3118
02:24:56,010 --> 02:24:52,750
go into it in depth is I think that the

3119
02:24:57,899 --> 02:24:56,020
the liberties that the writers are

3120
02:25:00,780 --> 02:24:57,909
taking on the show and the producers on

3121
02:25:05,370 --> 02:25:00,790
the show which is fine but they are

3122
02:25:08,580 --> 02:25:05,380
seriously tarnishing allen hynek's life

3123
02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:08,590
and legacy and and I don't dig that part

3124
02:25:12,330 --> 02:25:10,870
of it and ya know I'm with you I I don't

3125
02:25:14,591 --> 02:25:12,340
agree with all the liberties that have

3126
02:25:16,511 --> 02:25:14,601
been taken we're at a point where

3127
02:25:18,371 --> 02:25:16,521
I understand how these Hollywood people

3128
02:25:20,171 --> 02:25:18,381
operate them we've we've met enough of

3129
02:25:23,321 --> 02:25:20,181
them you know like they're not they're

3130
02:25:24,911 --> 02:25:23,331
not UFO people although the Creator is

3131
02:25:26,861 --> 02:25:24,921
deaf I spoke with him he's a great guy

3132
02:25:28,451 --> 02:25:26,871
he's really into the UFO phenomenon for

3133
02:25:30,041 --> 02:25:28,461
real but the problem is when these

3134
02:25:31,991 --> 02:25:30,051
projects get into Hollywood like

3135
02:25:33,581 --> 02:25:32,001
everyone else takes over and they they

3136
02:25:35,890 --> 02:25:33,591
think that they have the right idea and

3137
02:25:38,261 --> 02:25:35,900
let's dramatize and it's one thing to

3138
02:25:39,611 --> 02:25:38,271
change certain peripheral things to fit

3139
02:25:41,801 --> 02:25:39,621
Allen Hynek into all these different

3140
02:25:45,161 --> 02:25:41,811
stories that he didn't really appear in

3141
02:25:47,231 --> 02:25:45,171
in real life but yeah there are a lot of

3142
02:25:50,261 --> 02:25:47,241
liberties and and honestly we're at a

3143
02:25:51,491 --> 02:25:50,271
point with the UFO subject where people

3144
02:25:54,581 --> 02:25:51,501
don't they don't need the

3145
02:25:57,941 --> 02:25:54,591
fictionalization the real stories of

3146
02:25:59,831 --> 02:25:57,951
these cases are absolutely fascinating

3147
02:26:03,310 --> 02:25:59,841
like you could do a genuine

3148
02:26:06,581 --> 02:26:03,320
dramatization of the true story with

3149
02:26:08,711 --> 02:26:06,591
minimal damage and do real justice to it

3150
02:26:11,581 --> 02:26:08,721
because the real stories are fascinating

3151
02:26:14,111 --> 02:26:11,591
I mean they're not all as dramatic as

3152
02:26:15,881 --> 02:26:14,121
portrayed in the series and that's the

3153
02:26:18,581 --> 02:26:15,891
problem like they these guys want it

3154
02:26:21,640 --> 02:26:18,591
ultra dramatic but the fact is I think

3155
02:26:24,551 --> 02:26:21,650
most people now want to know is this

3156
02:26:26,201 --> 02:26:24,561
true is that true and when it isn't true

3157
02:26:30,430 --> 02:26:26,211
when they find it's not true I think it

3158
02:26:31,241 --> 02:26:30,440
takes a lot of the enjoyment out of the

3159
02:26:33,430 --> 02:26:31,251
experience

3160
02:26:35,291 --> 02:26:33,440
might have been different in the 1960s

3161
02:26:37,661 --> 02:26:35,301
but it's this is where we're at now

3162
02:26:40,600 --> 02:26:37,671
I think people are sophisticated enough

3163
02:26:42,911 --> 02:26:40,610
with UFOs like they want to know these

3164
02:26:45,461 --> 02:26:42,921
cases are accurately portrayed and

3165
02:26:47,111 --> 02:26:45,471
generally speaking there are significant

3166
02:26:48,821 --> 02:26:47,121
liberties that are taken with them yeah

3167
02:26:51,551 --> 02:26:48,831
and that's where I want to go when we

3168
02:26:53,531 --> 02:26:51,561
come back after the break let's not lose

3169
02:26:56,770 --> 02:26:53,541
sight of History Channel's got a

3170
02:27:00,131 --> 02:26:56,780
reputation it's called History Channel

3171
02:27:03,161 --> 02:27:00,141
for a reason and when they start off a

3172
02:27:06,310 --> 02:27:03,171
show about somebody's personal life like

3173
02:27:10,421 --> 02:27:06,320
a dr. J Allen Hynek and they started off

3174
02:27:13,211 --> 02:27:10,431
this is based on actual Case Files this

3175
02:27:15,850 --> 02:27:13,221
is based on fact you need to be very

3176
02:27:17,921 --> 02:27:15,860
careful about how you present that

3177
02:27:19,871 --> 02:27:17,931
because somebody that doesn't know

3178
02:27:22,390 --> 02:27:19,881
anything about UFOs like my daughter's

3179
02:27:24,751 --> 02:27:22,400
you know and they go and they they watch

3180
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:24,761
this they're coming at me did you know

3181
02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:26,930
that this doctor

3182
02:27:31,900 --> 02:27:30,790
was you know he saw ETS and a tank and a

3183
02:27:33,880 --> 02:27:31,910
beer

3184
02:27:38,530 --> 02:27:33,890
yeah he's basically Fox Mulder in the

3185
02:27:40,900 --> 02:27:38,540
50s yes yes I asked him because I mean

3186
02:27:42,519 --> 02:27:40,910
let's face it I look a little bit like

3187
02:27:45,490 --> 02:27:42,529
the character in that and I think that's

3188
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kind of cool so I opted I want them to

3189
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let me do the stunts you know so when it

3190
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comes time to Duke out a Russian spy put

3191
02:27:56,229 --> 02:27:52,880
me in there let me take out the Russian

3192
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:56,239
spy and and and plus you smoked a pipe

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so you could just walk right on the set

3194
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let's take a break right here Richard

3195
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Dolan is our guest this is fade to black

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doing a little overtime with Richard

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Dolan his wife Tracy just went and made

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him a single shot of espresso to make

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sure that he gets through the show

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tonight and Richard I didn't ask you you

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were expecting this at the top of a show

3295
02:33:25,349 --> 02:33:22,870
but what was the last piece of music

3296
02:33:27,630 --> 02:33:25,359
that you listen to today that's funny

3297
02:33:29,130 --> 02:33:27,640
just before I went on I was asking Tracy

3298
02:33:32,880 --> 02:33:29,140
like what the hell and I listened to I

3299
02:33:36,269 --> 02:33:32,890
didn't hear any music today Wow none but

3300
02:33:39,420 --> 02:33:36,279
yesterday we were driving and we heard

3301
02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:39,430
Led Zeppelin which which one dear maker

3302
02:33:48,540 --> 02:33:43,810
o dire maker who dire maker I've

3303
02:33:52,139 --> 02:33:48,550
listened to it for like 45 years on the

3304
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:52,149
radio and that's a good song that's like

3305
02:33:58,040 --> 02:33:53,680
a really great Zeppelin song did you

3306
02:34:02,010 --> 02:33:58,050
crank it I always crank the zip oh man

3307
02:34:04,170 --> 02:34:02,020
nothing I like I'm a 70s guy so like I

3308
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:04,180
love Zeppelin but I like the disco

3309
02:34:09,660 --> 02:34:06,370
that's where you and I part ways no I

3310
02:34:12,479 --> 02:34:09,670
love disco are you kidding oh man that's

3311
02:34:15,150 --> 02:34:12,489
that's my child just like the hair bands

3312
02:34:16,979 --> 02:34:15,160
and oh that's natural rock and the tight

3313
02:34:19,229 --> 02:34:16,989
spandex I thought that was you how that

3314
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:19,239
would that was me later but in the 70s

3315
02:34:27,450 --> 02:34:23,290
look this is this is my childhood that

3316
02:34:30,479 --> 02:34:27,460
was 14 15 16 years old was down in

3317
02:34:34,530 --> 02:34:30,489
Panama at the Canal Zone and each army

3318
02:34:37,820 --> 02:34:34,540
base and including I think the DoD

3319
02:34:41,330 --> 02:34:37,830
centers too as well all had teen clubs

3320
02:34:44,490 --> 02:34:41,340
right they were called teen clubs and

3321
02:34:47,630 --> 02:34:44,500
imagine a government-sanctioned teen

3322
02:34:50,849 --> 02:34:47,640
club right were they you could go in and

3323
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:50,859
I'm sure that you know what pool tables

3324
02:34:58,110 --> 02:34:54,720
ping pong tables and and guitars and ass

3325
02:35:00,719 --> 02:34:58,120
right and and once a week once a month

3326
02:35:04,050 --> 02:35:00,729
each one of those teen clubs had a dance

3327
02:35:07,769 --> 02:35:04,060
and man it was all about the Bee Gees

3328
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:07,779
because then Saturday Night Fever was

3329
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:09,130
the number with that but that was it was

3330
02:35:15,630 --> 02:35:11,290
all about disco so I I had the silk

3331
02:35:17,030 --> 02:35:15,640
shirt Barry Gibb rock the falsetto no

3332
02:35:19,790 --> 02:35:17,040
one else could do the Fall

3333
02:35:22,790 --> 02:35:19,800
seto nobody did look and with the and

3334
02:35:24,980 --> 02:35:22,800
fine set of teeth fine set of teeth that

3335
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:24,990
Barry Gibb okay

3336
02:35:32,090 --> 02:35:30,210
back to I could talk disco all night I

3337
02:35:35,390 --> 02:35:32,100
don't know that you did the the bright

3338
02:35:37,430 --> 02:35:35,400
blue spandex I just suspect you did yeah

3339
02:35:40,370 --> 02:35:37,440
I did I did I did I did

3340
02:35:43,940 --> 02:35:40,380
capezios oh man capezios and spandex

3341
02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:43,950
what a horrible thought but anyway

3342
02:35:48,650 --> 02:35:46,890
capezios were dancing shoes but that was

3343
02:35:51,890 --> 02:35:48,660
the cool thing here on the Sunset Strip

3344
02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:51,900
in the 80s I missed that memo man I've

3345
02:35:59,380 --> 02:35:56,250
got pictures okay so anyway are we

3346
02:36:03,261 --> 02:35:59,390
getting into tho a dangerous zone where

3347
02:36:05,690 --> 02:36:03,271
we are presenting Project Blue Book and

3348
02:36:08,360 --> 02:36:05,700
shows like this as as historical fact

3349
02:36:11,840 --> 02:36:08,370
like this is a historical record I mean

3350
02:36:14,690 --> 02:36:11,850
absolutely they're these shows they're

3351
02:36:17,150 --> 02:36:14,700
primarily entertainment people can't

3352
02:36:18,830 --> 02:36:17,160
lose sight of it you know I've I've been

3353
02:36:22,430 --> 02:36:18,840
pretty nice about it they look and I'll

3354
02:36:24,980 --> 02:36:22,440
just say they they called me so I did an

3355
02:36:27,290 --> 02:36:24,990
in a full day of interviews with the

3356
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:27,300
Project Blue Book team I don't know if I

3357
02:36:31,011 --> 02:36:29,250
even told you this know that I'll do the

3358
02:36:32,840 --> 02:36:31,021
History Channel website you'll find

3359
02:36:34,790 --> 02:36:32,850
Jacques Vallee you'll find me and you'll

3360
02:36:37,850 --> 02:36:34,800
find the Hynek sons Paul and Joel Hynek

3361
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:37,860
with sit-down interviews on the various

3362
02:36:44,480 --> 02:36:41,010
cases portrayed in the project Bluebook

3363
02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:44,490
series and they want so it's actually we

3364
02:36:48,950 --> 02:36:46,410
tried to give I did my best honestly

3365
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:48,960
it's like what was the real truth of the

3366
02:36:53,750 --> 02:36:51,930
child's witted 1948 encounter in the air

3367
02:36:55,820 --> 02:36:53,760
with Eastern Airlines and you know they

3368
02:36:59,720 --> 02:36:55,830
had their own dramatization of it with

3369
02:37:02,330 --> 02:36:59,730
Allen Hynek on the plane but but there's

3370
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:02,340
a great story there and so what I did is

3371
02:37:08,410 --> 02:37:06,210
I sat down with them and I talked about

3372
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:08,420
those cases as best I could and those

3373
02:37:13,030 --> 02:37:11,010
snippets I guess I should say are on the

3374
02:37:15,860 --> 02:37:13,040
History Channel website so to that

3375
02:37:17,780 --> 02:37:15,870
limited extent I I have a connection to

3376
02:37:19,940 --> 02:37:17,790
that project although obviously had

3377
02:37:23,450 --> 02:37:19,950
nothing to do with any of the the script

3378
02:37:26,060 --> 02:37:23,460
or anything to do with that but you know

3379
02:37:27,290 --> 02:37:26,070
I understand I mean I on the one hand I

3380
02:37:28,010 --> 02:37:27,300
understand where these guys are coming

3381
02:37:32,149 --> 02:37:28,020
from but

3382
02:37:34,969 --> 02:37:32,159
it's it's definitely misguided - at this

3383
02:37:38,359 --> 02:37:34,979
point in the game with all that's out

3384
02:37:41,359 --> 02:37:38,369
there on the UFO phenomenon to change

3385
02:37:43,880 --> 02:37:41,369
the nature of the history that much to

3386
02:37:46,580 --> 02:37:43,890
change allen hynek's career or his wife

3387
02:37:48,139 --> 02:37:46,590
for that matter me me right to bring in

3388
02:37:49,880 --> 02:37:48,149
the Russian spies the way that they've

3389
02:37:51,740 --> 02:37:49,890
done yeah it's not that there wasn't

3390
02:37:55,729 --> 02:37:51,750
Russian espionage yeah there was Russian

3391
02:37:59,359 --> 02:37:55,739
espionage yes but not like no not with

3392
02:38:02,090 --> 02:37:59,369
Hynek in this manner no clearly not

3393
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:02,100
one of the the Bluebook character that

3394
02:38:07,130 --> 02:38:04,319
they pair Hynek went with in the series

3395
02:38:08,870 --> 02:38:07,140
is kind of a little bit model on a troop

3396
02:38:11,179 --> 02:38:08,880
belt but i think much more modeled on a

3397
02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:11,189
later blue book head named Lauren

3398
02:38:14,960 --> 02:38:13,050
stacker and if you look into the history

3399
02:38:18,769 --> 02:38:14,970
of his attack Iran blue book in around

3400
02:38:21,139 --> 02:38:18,779
1960 and was a hardcore D bunker I mean

3401
02:38:24,679 --> 02:38:21,149
almost like a cartoonish debunker of

3402
02:38:28,370 --> 02:38:24,689
UFOs so they they kind of mix and match

3403
02:38:31,279 --> 02:38:28,380
different people historically and I get

3404
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:31,289
that but the the changes that they made

3405
02:38:35,540 --> 02:38:33,210
to the cases are really quite obvious to

3406
02:38:39,410 --> 02:38:35,550
people who study the phenomenon and I

3407
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:39,420
guess I just it's unfortunate the the

3408
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:42,000
other aspects of it I would have thought

3409
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:44,479
if they would have just stayed

3410
02:38:48,439 --> 02:38:45,600
tried-and-true

3411
02:38:50,990 --> 02:38:48,449
you know because he his life was as

3412
02:38:53,990 --> 02:38:51,000
fascinating as it could be if they just

3413
02:38:55,969 --> 02:38:54,000
stuck with what really went on then I

3414
02:38:59,450 --> 02:38:55,979
think that's just as fascinating there's

3415
02:39:01,099 --> 02:38:59,460
no reason to fictionalize all of these

3416
02:39:02,689 --> 02:39:01,109
events you know like well I'm gonna make

3417
02:39:05,090 --> 02:39:02,699
it about Allen Hynek you'd have to drop

3418
02:39:08,149 --> 02:39:05,100
most of the cases that they cover so

3419
02:39:09,889 --> 02:39:08,159
there's that there's that I mean you

3420
02:39:11,569 --> 02:39:09,899
know Hynek wasn't really involved in

3421
02:39:13,429 --> 02:39:11,579
most of those investigations some of

3422
02:39:15,559 --> 02:39:13,439
them he was but most not really or at

3423
02:39:17,349 --> 02:39:15,569
least tangentially he was now you could

3424
02:39:19,370 --> 02:39:17,359
have done a series on Edward ruppelt

3425
02:39:21,620 --> 02:39:19,380
that's an interesting one but again

3426
02:39:23,689 --> 02:39:21,630
that's a different kind of a sort of the

3427
02:39:25,219 --> 02:39:23,699
story you could do a series on the

3428
02:39:26,929 --> 02:39:25,229
history of Project Blue Book and you'd

3429
02:39:28,550 --> 02:39:26,939
have different characters and that's a

3430
02:39:30,500 --> 02:39:28,560
different kind of a story like the way

3431
02:39:31,700 --> 02:39:30,510
that they like to do this is that you

3432
02:39:34,639 --> 02:39:31,710
create a hero

3433
02:39:37,010 --> 02:39:34,649
so they created Hynek as the hero in

3434
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:37,020
this case and so by doing that you

3435
02:39:41,300 --> 02:39:38,880
create a structure you then have to

3436
02:39:41,950 --> 02:39:41,310
change you got to change a lot of the

3437
02:39:44,920 --> 02:39:41,960
historical

3438
02:39:46,570 --> 02:39:44,930
that's that's where it falls you know

3439
02:39:49,210 --> 02:39:46,580
that's where it's very easy

3440
02:39:50,860 --> 02:39:49,220
I mean criticising the failings of that

3441
02:39:53,320 --> 02:39:50,870
shows like shooting fish in a barrel and

3442
02:39:57,400 --> 02:39:53,330
everyone's happy to do it

3443
02:39:59,860 --> 02:39:57,410
for me I just feel like if I go I mean

3444
02:40:02,620 --> 02:39:59,870
Tracy and I watched it we we were sent

3445
02:40:06,430 --> 02:40:02,630
screeners of it so we were able to see

3446
02:40:08,530 --> 02:40:06,440
most of the shows and again it's if you

3447
02:40:11,710 --> 02:40:08,540
look at it as fiction or dramatization

3448
02:40:12,910 --> 02:40:11,720
and you just let it go you could say all

3449
02:40:16,890 --> 02:40:12,920
right fine it's fun it's like the

3450
02:40:21,340 --> 02:40:16,900
x-files in the 1950s but the truth

3451
02:40:24,219 --> 02:40:21,350
really requires you know additional

3452
02:40:26,260 --> 02:40:24,229
digging like they the show's change so

3453
02:40:30,580 --> 02:40:26,270
much but what about the bigger picture

3454
02:40:33,070 --> 02:40:30,590
here and the release of Project Blue

3455
02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:33,080
Book all of the action that we had last

3456
02:40:42,460 --> 02:40:38,890
year with a tip and the New York Times

3457
02:40:44,800 --> 02:40:42,470
all of these revelations going through

3458
02:40:47,830 --> 02:40:44,810
the mainstream media on the UFO subject

3459
02:40:50,740 --> 02:40:47,840
and of course the other UFO programming

3460
02:40:55,600 --> 02:40:50,750
that is all over television right now is

3461
02:40:58,600 --> 02:40:55,610
this part of a bigger agenda where all

3462
02:41:00,880 --> 02:40:58,610
of this is being pushed on to the world

3463
02:41:03,610 --> 02:41:00,890
stage I think what we're seeing is a

3464
02:41:05,680 --> 02:41:03,620
combination of forces at work so it's

3465
02:41:07,930 --> 02:41:05,690
not just one thing it's not just like oh

3466
02:41:09,610 --> 02:41:07,940
well the the deep state is now deciding

3467
02:41:11,770 --> 02:41:09,620
to to leak out a little bit of

3468
02:41:13,960 --> 02:41:11,780
controlled disclosure no that's so

3469
02:41:17,760 --> 02:41:13,970
simplistic so what's happening is you've

3470
02:41:21,520 --> 02:41:17,770
got forces at work you have an elite

3471
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:21,530
control group that's existed for a long

3472
02:41:26,620 --> 02:41:23,530
long long time a whole human lifetime

3473
02:41:29,410 --> 02:41:26,630
but the problem is we're in a society

3474
02:41:31,690 --> 02:41:29,420
that has gone through dramatic changes

3475
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:31,700
over the past several generations and

3476
02:41:37,420 --> 02:41:34,370
that is an undeniable fact we have the

3477
02:41:40,120 --> 02:41:37,430
web the web didn't exist more than 20 25

3478
02:41:42,760 --> 02:41:40,130
years ago it exists now and not only the

3479
02:41:45,790 --> 02:41:42,770
web but we're in web version 2.0 which

3480
02:41:48,130 --> 02:41:45,800
is social media and so and we're going

3481
02:41:49,480 --> 02:41:48,140
to be moving to 3.0 which will be 5g

3482
02:41:51,730 --> 02:41:49,490
total surveillance Internet of Things

3483
02:41:55,340 --> 02:41:51,740
but right now the version of the web

3484
02:41:56,809 --> 02:41:55,350
that we have is advanced enough where

3485
02:41:59,599 --> 02:41:56,819
people are talking to each other and

3486
02:42:02,059 --> 02:41:59,609
guess what the reality of the UFO

3487
02:42:06,079 --> 02:42:02,069
phenomenon from the beginning of the

3488
02:42:10,069 --> 02:42:06,089
internet in the 1980s UFOs were the

3489
02:42:13,540 --> 02:42:10,079
first significant non techie subject

3490
02:42:16,639 --> 02:42:13,550
that helped open up the Internet why

3491
02:42:18,949 --> 02:42:16,649
guess why because it's a real phenomenon

3492
02:42:20,840 --> 02:42:18,959
and people experience it worldwide and

3493
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:20,850
they want to know about it and so what's

3494
02:42:27,439 --> 02:42:24,810
happening is that as our ability to talk

3495
02:42:31,369 --> 02:42:27,449
about this subject continues to grow and

3496
02:42:33,889 --> 02:42:31,379
evolve that is pushing this subject into

3497
02:42:36,229 --> 02:42:33,899
the forefront and so what you're seeing

3498
02:42:39,079 --> 02:42:36,239
is a situation where the powers that be

3499
02:42:40,939 --> 02:42:39,089
if we want to call them that have to

3500
02:42:42,710 --> 02:42:40,949
react in one way or another and they

3501
02:42:44,809 --> 02:42:42,720
react in various ways so they control

3502
02:42:46,399 --> 02:42:44,819
the media so they'll take the corporate

3503
02:42:49,219 --> 02:42:46,409
media and they'll control they'll put

3504
02:42:50,420 --> 02:42:49,229
out their spin of the UFO phenomenon and

3505
02:42:52,609 --> 02:42:50,430
they've been doing that for years

3506
02:42:54,349 --> 02:42:52,619
alright you notice with all of the

3507
02:42:56,239 --> 02:42:54,359
versions of the UFO phenomena until the

3508
02:42:58,819 --> 02:42:56,249
x-files really there were like no

3509
02:43:01,099 --> 02:42:58,829
portrayals of grey aliens they were just

3510
02:43:02,449 --> 02:43:01,109
you know and even now with the movies

3511
02:43:04,729 --> 02:43:02,459
like none of the hollywood movies

3512
02:43:07,779 --> 02:43:04,739
portray grey aliens they're all like

3513
02:43:10,130 --> 02:43:07,789
these wacko scient fantasy type

3514
02:43:13,460 --> 02:43:10,140
creatures that no one's ever seen right

3515
02:43:15,529 --> 02:43:13,470
but so there's a definite manipulation

3516
02:43:17,809 --> 02:43:15,539
going on but the fact is it's it's

3517
02:43:20,210 --> 02:43:17,819
simply a back and forth pushing that

3518
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:20,220
we're seeing it's the public that's

3519
02:43:24,889 --> 02:43:22,560
pushing this forward and the

3520
02:43:27,679 --> 02:43:24,899
establishment is reacting and they are

3521
02:43:30,409 --> 02:43:27,689
reacting by seeking to control for as

3522
02:43:32,750 --> 02:43:30,419
long as possible like if they can

3523
02:43:34,609 --> 02:43:32,760
control this for a hundred more years

3524
02:43:36,739 --> 02:43:34,619
they will control it for a hundred more

3525
02:43:38,510 --> 02:43:36,749
years you mark my words if it takes if

3526
02:43:40,579 --> 02:43:38,520
all they have is five years and they'll

3527
02:43:41,929 --> 02:43:40,589
take the five the point is they're

3528
02:43:45,489 --> 02:43:41,939
trying to delay this as long as possible

3529
02:43:48,290 --> 02:43:45,499
because the ramifications of a true

3530
02:43:50,210 --> 02:43:48,300
disclosure of the genuine UFO phenomenon

3531
02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:50,220
is way too revolutionary it's way too

3532
02:43:55,760 --> 02:43:52,800
dramatic but the fact is they can't stop

3533
02:43:57,949 --> 02:43:55,770
it that's the whole thing like because

3534
02:43:59,569 --> 02:43:57,959
there's too many moving parts there are

3535
02:44:01,130 --> 02:43:59,579
too many different opinions there are

3536
02:44:03,579 --> 02:44:01,140
too many people with different amounts

3537
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:03,589
of knowledge on this so it's happening

3538
02:44:08,510 --> 02:44:06,810
but you know it's saying everyone's got

3539
02:44:10,460 --> 02:44:08,520
their own motivations for

3540
02:44:13,340 --> 02:44:10,470
putting their information out there of

3541
02:44:15,950 --> 02:44:13,350
course but it is happening nevertheless

3542
02:44:18,229 --> 02:44:15,960
it's messy and it could take a long time

3543
02:44:22,010 --> 02:44:18,239
and it might not happen until after I'm

3544
02:44:24,200 --> 02:44:22,020
dead but it will happen it will happen

3545
02:44:26,359 --> 02:44:24,210
and when it will happen how it will

3546
02:44:29,660 --> 02:44:26,369
happen is all up for grabs right now but

3547
02:44:33,319 --> 02:44:29,670
it will happen one of the fascinating

3548
02:44:36,050 --> 02:44:33,329
parts of my researches of plugged along

3549
02:44:39,170 --> 02:44:36,060
through this has been outside of our

3550
02:44:42,620 --> 02:44:39,180
community completely outside I've

3551
02:44:47,899 --> 02:44:42,630
reached out and and found a hole not

3552
02:44:51,050 --> 02:44:47,909
much larger than the UFO community much

3553
02:44:55,189 --> 02:44:51,060
much or way bigger and I'm talking about

3554
02:44:58,849 --> 02:44:55,199
the the researchers that go into science

3555
02:45:01,910 --> 02:44:58,859
fiction into the gaming community and

3556
02:45:06,769 --> 02:45:01,920
and the money that is evolved there and

3557
02:45:09,410 --> 02:45:06,779
the amount of gamers and science fiction

3558
02:45:11,929 --> 02:45:09,420
readers out there like you know think

3559
02:45:15,500 --> 02:45:11,939
about the size of comic-con versus the

3560
02:45:18,170 --> 02:45:15,510
size of contact in the desert its to two

3561
02:45:22,490 --> 02:45:18,180
different things and and it is so large

3562
02:45:26,750 --> 02:45:22,500
but those the for each game that is

3563
02:45:29,000 --> 02:45:26,760
involved video game with et and

3564
02:45:32,300 --> 02:45:29,010
civilizations and taking over planets

3565
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:32,310
and they their scientific research going

3566
02:45:38,349 --> 02:45:34,170
into this how interstellar travel

3567
02:45:42,010 --> 02:45:38,359
happens Trading interstellar warfare

3568
02:45:45,439 --> 02:45:42,020
colonization all of this it is

3569
02:45:48,319 --> 02:45:45,449
unbelievable how much research goes into

3570
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:48,329
this outside of our community and you go

3571
02:45:51,979 --> 02:45:49,920
into this and you start looking I'm

3572
02:45:54,380 --> 02:45:51,989
talking about scientists and physicists

3573
02:45:58,910 --> 02:45:54,390
that are involved that are on the

3574
02:46:01,069 --> 02:45:58,920
payrolls to get the the ideas of how a

3575
02:46:02,719 --> 02:46:01,079
civilization is supported how do they

3576
02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:02,729
feed themselves how do they travel out

3577
02:46:08,240 --> 02:46:05,250
of the occupy plan the weapons that they

3578
02:46:10,939 --> 02:46:08,250
would use the ideas behind an invasion

3579
02:46:16,790 --> 02:46:10,949
or not or an occupation or not you're

3580
02:46:18,859 --> 02:46:16,800
getting the intrigue yes it is and you

3581
02:46:20,630 --> 02:46:18,869
get outside of our community and then

3582
02:46:21,740 --> 02:46:20,640
you start to realize it's not just us

3583
02:46:25,370 --> 02:46:21,750
Richard

3584
02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:25,380
it's not the entire planet is is

3585
02:46:30,290 --> 02:46:27,120
fascinated with this you should go check

3586
02:46:31,640 --> 02:46:30,300
out and have a Tracey write this down go

3587
02:46:36,590 --> 02:46:31,650
check out Isaac

3588
02:46:38,810 --> 02:46:36,600
Arthur is a a see Arthur and go and

3589
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:38,820
start listening to his videos and his uh

3590
02:46:44,660 --> 02:46:42,000
his YouTube channel and he is somebody

3591
02:46:46,610 --> 02:46:44,670
that not only works in the science

3592
02:46:50,840 --> 02:46:46,620
fiction and the gaming community but

3593
02:46:53,150 --> 02:46:50,850
he's also graduated with the physics

3594
02:46:55,520 --> 02:46:53,160
degree so you saw his name down the

3595
02:46:58,430 --> 02:46:55,530
thing is the the UFO phenomenon has been

3596
02:47:00,140 --> 02:46:58,440
transforming our culture like like this

3597
02:47:01,730 --> 02:47:00,150
what you're describing wouldn't have

3598
02:47:03,800 --> 02:47:01,740
been possible if there was no UFO

3599
02:47:07,130 --> 02:47:03,810
phenomenon I firmly believe this I think

3600
02:47:10,070 --> 02:47:07,140
what's happened is that the arrival of a

3601
02:47:11,960 --> 02:47:10,080
widespread UFO phenomenon in our culture

3602
02:47:13,910 --> 02:47:11,970
starting really in the 1940s although

3603
02:47:16,400 --> 02:47:13,920
the phenomenons earlier than that but we

3604
02:47:19,730 --> 02:47:16,410
became aware of it as a culture openly

3605
02:47:23,840 --> 02:47:19,740
in the 40s has transformed our culture

3606
02:47:26,600 --> 02:47:23,850
in really important ways so and this

3607
02:47:28,820 --> 02:47:26,610
what you're describing is one aspect of

3608
02:47:32,240 --> 02:47:28,830
it and this is why I'm saying when we're

3609
02:47:35,300 --> 02:47:32,250
talking about you know shows like the

3610
02:47:37,340 --> 02:47:35,310
Bluebook show they are in a sense

3611
02:47:38,960 --> 02:47:37,350
they're they're a lot of things going in

3612
02:47:42,590 --> 02:47:38,970
there so in the one hand it's a pure

3613
02:47:44,780 --> 02:47:42,600
money-making venture corporate people

3614
02:47:47,030 --> 02:47:44,790
who have a little bit of images in UFOs

3615
02:47:50,150 --> 02:47:47,040
want to make a show that and make some

3616
02:47:53,060 --> 02:47:50,160
money off of it there's also let's never

3617
02:47:55,250 --> 02:47:53,070
forget there's a lot of control going on

3618
02:47:58,010 --> 02:47:55,260
in these networks they are at the

3619
02:48:00,350 --> 02:47:58,020
highest levels they are connected and in

3620
02:48:01,700 --> 02:48:00,360
bed with the intelligence community and

3621
02:48:04,580 --> 02:48:01,710
they are and you know just remember the

3622
02:48:07,160 --> 02:48:04,590
name chase Brandon I forgot about him

3623
02:48:09,590 --> 02:48:07,170
yes Hollywood that's right

3624
02:48:14,090 --> 02:48:09,600
alright so so this is a real thing and

3625
02:48:16,130 --> 02:48:14,100
his job was to consult with Hollywood

3626
02:48:17,840 --> 02:48:16,140
productions and make sure that they just

3627
02:48:19,160 --> 02:48:17,850
said the right things about the CIA and

3628
02:48:21,380 --> 02:48:19,170
about other things that were important

3629
02:48:25,580 --> 02:48:21,390
and that's how it was and that's how it

3630
02:48:27,500 --> 02:48:25,590
is and so there's definitely a control

3631
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:27,510
element going on and that has to do with

3632
02:48:31,970 --> 02:48:29,850
our entire media you know we started off

3633
02:48:34,700 --> 02:48:31,980
this conversation an hour and a half ago

3634
02:48:37,969 --> 02:48:34,710
where we talked about news media

3635
02:48:39,920 --> 02:48:37,979
and and how controlled is there was an

3636
02:48:43,700 --> 02:48:39,930
operation Mockingbird that went for

3637
02:48:45,650 --> 02:48:43,710
years and it's exists more deep and

3638
02:48:47,809 --> 02:48:45,660
profound than ever before but that was a

3639
02:48:50,120 --> 02:48:47,819
CIA manipulation of American mainstream

3640
02:48:54,320 --> 02:48:50,130
media and it's a matter of historical

3641
02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:54,330
fact and the control over media by our

3642
02:48:59,570 --> 02:48:56,850
intelligence community and our financial

3643
02:49:03,260 --> 02:48:59,580
and military community is greater now

3644
02:49:05,210 --> 02:49:03,270
than it was even fifty years ago so so

3645
02:49:08,210 --> 02:49:05,220
right all of this has to be looked at

3646
02:49:11,389 --> 02:49:08,220
with a jaded eye by ordinary citizens

3647
02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:11,399
all of it but let's just not disempower

3648
02:49:16,070 --> 02:49:14,010
ourselves in the process the fact is

3649
02:49:17,300 --> 02:49:16,080
that these little disclosures are

3650
02:49:19,490 --> 02:49:17,310
happening because they're being forced

3651
02:49:21,019 --> 02:49:19,500
out because this isn't the world of the

3652
02:49:23,389 --> 02:49:21,029
1980s anymore

3653
02:49:25,429 --> 02:49:23,399
like what what's happening was with

3654
02:49:28,849 --> 02:49:25,439
revelations by people like how cut off

3655
02:49:31,189 --> 02:49:28,859
is that it's possible now it would never

3656
02:49:32,780 --> 02:49:31,199
have been possible thirty years ago it's

3657
02:49:37,070 --> 02:49:32,790
possible now because there's been too

3658
02:49:39,320 --> 02:49:37,080
much pushing up from below to allow for

3659
02:49:42,880 --> 02:49:39,330
certain things now to be released that's

3660
02:49:46,099 --> 02:49:42,890
how it's working it's a it's a multi

3661
02:49:49,580 --> 02:49:46,109
there's multiple forces at work here and

3662
02:49:52,340 --> 02:49:49,590
one of those forces is the genuine

3663
02:49:55,340 --> 02:49:52,350
interests of the people you bring a

3664
02:49:57,349 --> 02:49:55,350
project Mockingbird and when the

3665
02:50:00,410 --> 02:49:57,359
difficulty of Mockingbird back in the

3666
02:50:02,510 --> 02:50:00,420
day where you had printed media and you

3667
02:50:05,990 --> 02:50:02,520
had three channels right and so you had

3668
02:50:08,570 --> 02:50:06,000
to get a physical body on the payroll at

3669
02:50:11,719 --> 02:50:08,580
a newspaper in Wichita or whatever and

3670
02:50:13,639 --> 02:50:11,729
they had hundreds of them across the

3671
02:50:16,010 --> 02:50:13,649
United States on the payroll

3672
02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:16,020
that's fact that's historical right you

3673
02:50:20,030 --> 02:50:18,210
control the wire services the wire as

3674
02:50:21,320 --> 02:50:20,040
close to the Internet of the day would

3675
02:50:22,849 --> 02:50:21,330
disseminate the news so you control the

3676
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:22,859
wire servers you control the majors

3677
02:50:26,809 --> 02:50:24,810
certainly New York Times was always

3678
02:50:30,620 --> 02:50:26,819
under control that way Washington Post

3679
02:50:34,820 --> 02:50:30,630
and the others yeah and so today how how

3680
02:50:37,219 --> 02:50:34,830
much easier is it for the CIA to have a

3681
02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:37,229
project Mockingbird when all you have to

3682
02:50:41,179 --> 02:50:39,359
do you don't have to have a physical all

3683
02:50:42,650 --> 02:50:41,189
you have to do is create a website all

3684
02:50:44,420 --> 02:50:42,660
you've got to do is create a Twitter

3685
02:50:46,429 --> 02:50:44,430
account all you have to do all you have

3686
02:50:47,920 --> 02:50:46,439
to do create a YouTube channel start

3687
02:50:49,389 --> 02:50:47,930
putting some content out there

3688
02:50:51,729 --> 02:50:49,399
and you can do it all from one

3689
02:50:54,429 --> 02:50:51,739
centralized office right and Langley

3690
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,439
where you don't have physical bodies on

3691
02:50:58,000 --> 02:50:56,000
a payroll across the United States

3692
02:50:59,769 --> 02:50:58,010
called sock puppets that's it's a real

3693
02:51:01,570 --> 02:50:59,779
thing it's a real things departments

3694
02:51:04,389 --> 02:51:01,580
been they create sock but fake fake

3695
02:51:05,830 --> 02:51:04,399
personas we're actually we're apparently

3696
02:51:08,650 --> 02:51:05,840
we may be seeing that in our own field

3697
02:51:11,530 --> 02:51:08,660
but we'll get to that another time but

3698
02:51:13,059 --> 02:51:11,540
but but this is something that the

3699
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:13,069
intelligence community has been very

3700
02:51:16,059 --> 02:51:14,960
very sophisticated with and by the way

3701
02:51:17,710 --> 02:51:16,069
everyone likes to talk about the Russian

3702
02:51:19,809 --> 02:51:17,720
BOTS and I'm sure there are Russian BOTS

3703
02:51:21,790 --> 02:51:19,819
but man they got nothing on the u.s.

3704
02:51:24,400 --> 02:51:21,800
BOTS sense for sure but the point is

3705
02:51:26,500 --> 02:51:24,410
Mockingbird is an easier program program

3706
02:51:29,679 --> 02:51:26,510
to implement now than ever before you're

3707
02:51:31,630 --> 02:51:29,689
exactly right a media consolidation I

3708
02:51:33,969 --> 02:51:31,640
mean back in the 50s they were like what

3709
02:51:36,639 --> 02:51:33,979
up 50 or 100 of the leading media

3710
02:51:39,070 --> 02:51:36,649
organizations controlled 80 90 percent

3711
02:51:42,210 --> 02:51:39,080
of all media now that number six right

3712
02:51:45,370 --> 02:51:42,220
so if you have relationships with those

3713
02:51:47,710 --> 02:51:45,380
top media organizations which are all

3714
02:51:50,800 --> 02:51:47,720
segmented into their various markets and

3715
02:51:52,420 --> 02:51:50,810
so forth well you you know you got it

3716
02:51:55,630 --> 02:51:52,430
made and that's exactly the way it is

3717
02:51:59,229 --> 02:51:55,640
there is a deceased German journalist

3718
02:52:00,639 --> 02:51:59,239
named dr. Judith Cota who just died a

3719
02:52:04,150 --> 02:52:00,649
year and a half ago I think and he

3720
02:52:06,700 --> 02:52:04,160
talked openly about how in in European

3721
02:52:08,950 --> 02:52:06,710
journalism the CIA controlled everything

3722
02:52:11,500 --> 02:52:08,960
they would write the articles and then

3723
02:52:15,729 --> 02:52:11,510
give the byline to a particular

3724
02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:15,739
journalist but he you know he's on

3725
02:52:19,090 --> 02:52:17,120
YouTube you can find a lot of his

3726
02:52:20,380 --> 02:52:19,100
statements there's a lot of American

3727
02:52:22,269 --> 02:52:20,390
journalists who talked about it amber

3728
02:52:25,360 --> 02:52:22,279
lyon and formerly of CNN talked about

3729
02:52:28,210 --> 02:52:25,370
how literally CNN created fake news back

3730
02:52:29,769 --> 02:52:28,220
during the arab spring of 2011 and

3731
02:52:31,960 --> 02:52:29,779
there's lots of other brave people

3732
02:52:35,500 --> 02:52:31,970
who've talked very very explicitly about

3733
02:52:37,090 --> 02:52:35,510
the manipulation of Western media by US

3734
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:37,100
corporate and intelligence community

3735
02:52:43,929 --> 02:52:40,160
interests and and so back circling back

3736
02:52:46,780 --> 02:52:43,939
to the UFO phenomenon of course we have

3737
02:52:49,769 --> 02:52:46,790
to expect the exact same thing the UFO

3738
02:52:52,300 --> 02:52:49,779
in fact very much so because UFOs are

3739
02:52:52,780 --> 02:52:52,310
important they have been of national

3740
02:52:55,479 --> 02:52:52,790
security

3741
02:52:58,510 --> 02:52:55,489
important since the beginning and so the

3742
02:53:01,780 --> 02:52:58,520
need to control it is paramount but the

3743
02:53:04,930 --> 02:53:01,790
problem is and again people need on

3744
02:53:07,210 --> 02:53:04,940
stand the secret keepers don't have all

3745
02:53:08,860 --> 02:53:07,220
of the power they have a lot of the

3746
02:53:10,990 --> 02:53:08,870
power and they have the power to

3747
02:53:12,910 --> 02:53:11,000
manipulate they have the power to psych

3748
02:53:17,050 --> 02:53:12,920
us out with all kinds of head fakes yes

3749
02:53:18,670 --> 02:53:17,060
they do it but the fact is if it had not

3750
02:53:21,340 --> 02:53:18,680
been for the web it had not been for the

3751
02:53:23,020 --> 02:53:21,350
internet and social media we would be in

3752
02:53:26,440 --> 02:53:23,030
a very different place a much worse

3753
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:26,450
place because of any kind of hopeful

3754
02:53:31,630 --> 02:53:29,120
disclosure now and what do we see we see

3755
02:53:35,530 --> 02:53:31,640
the elite groups of the world trying to

3756
02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:35,540
regain control over the web through deep

3757
02:53:40,750 --> 02:53:37,810
platforming public shaming and

3758
02:53:42,280 --> 02:53:40,760
surveillance and you know all of those

3759
02:53:46,150 --> 02:53:42,290
evil things that they're trying to do so

3760
02:53:48,970 --> 02:53:46,160
they understand full well that it is if

3761
02:53:50,800 --> 02:53:48,980
it is possible to delay genuine

3762
02:53:53,800 --> 02:53:50,810
disclosure they'll do it forever

3763
02:53:55,990 --> 02:53:53,810
and I don't think it will be forever but

3764
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:56,000
it could be for a while it may not be

3765
02:54:01,240 --> 02:53:59,120
for a while but that's the dynamic thank

3766
02:54:03,730 --> 02:54:01,250
you so much for just giving us oh drip

3767
02:54:07,780 --> 02:54:03,740
drip it's are they being forced to do it

3768
02:54:10,300 --> 02:54:07,790
by public pressure from below thank you

3769
02:54:13,060 --> 02:54:10,310
so much Richard if what a great

3770
02:54:18,940 --> 02:54:13,070
conversation tonight and when's the new

3771
02:54:20,560 --> 02:54:18,950
book coming out come on man I work every

3772
02:54:23,380 --> 02:54:20,570
day and there's never enough hours in

3773
02:54:27,011 --> 02:54:23,390
any day and is it gonna come out and if

3774
02:54:28,540 --> 02:54:27,021
every day I think back and I'm like what

3775
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:28,550
did I do to did I accomplish anything

3776
02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:31,010
and then I realized oh yeah I did I did

3777
02:54:34,660 --> 02:54:32,210
this and this and this and this but I

3778
02:54:37,600 --> 02:54:34,670
didn't I didn't do like 12 other things

3779
02:54:39,970 --> 02:54:37,610
that I wanted to do so 2020 we can look

3780
02:54:42,160 --> 02:54:39,980
forward to 2020 you can look forward to

3781
02:54:44,440 --> 02:54:42,170
things in 2019 I've got I've got writing

3782
02:54:47,500 --> 02:54:44,450
projects in the works I would like that

3783
02:54:50,980 --> 02:54:47,510
false flag book to be done in 2019 it's

3784
02:54:53,830 --> 02:54:50,990
possible thank you so much we'll talk

3785
02:54:57,180 --> 02:54:53,840
soon Richard and lots more to discuss

3786
02:54:59,470 --> 02:54:57,190
everybody just you just be patient and

3787
02:55:01,300 --> 02:54:59,480
Richard and I are making that commitment

3788
02:55:03,761 --> 02:55:01,310
to you right now like we did earlier in

3789
02:55:05,590 --> 02:55:03,771
this show when when we're ready we'll

3790
02:55:07,660 --> 02:55:05,600
talk and Richard

3791
02:55:09,880 --> 02:55:07,670
behave now go get some sleep thank you

3792
02:55:11,380 --> 02:55:09,890
so much give my best to Tracy you will

3793
02:55:14,290 --> 02:55:11,390
do thanks Jimmy thank you so much

3794
02:55:15,130 --> 02:55:14,300
Richard bleepin Dolan follow Richard

3795
02:55:19,689 --> 02:55:15,140
right now

3796
02:55:21,849 --> 02:55:19,699
on twitter at rich dolan that's what you

3797
02:55:24,639 --> 02:55:21,859
want to do he's got his radio show the

3798
02:55:28,149 --> 02:55:24,649
Richard Dolan show on K GRA the planet

3799
02:55:28,780 --> 02:55:28,159
and he if you go and follow his Twitter

3800
02:55:33,099 --> 02:55:28,790
account

3801
02:55:35,290 --> 02:55:33,109
he is broadcasting live on YouTube and

3802
02:55:38,530 --> 02:55:35,300
doing live stream seems like every day

3803
02:55:40,059 --> 02:55:38,540
he's got a lot to say so go and do that

3804
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:40,069
now and the easiest way to find out when

3805
02:55:46,960 --> 02:55:43,130
he's doing all of that stuff is on his

3806
02:55:48,399 --> 02:55:46,970
Twitter feed at rich Dolan okay now a

3807
02:55:51,420 --> 02:55:48,409
couple of things really quick

3808
02:55:55,240 --> 02:55:51,430
programming notes tomorrow night is

3809
02:55:57,189 --> 02:55:55,250
David Icke that's going to be pretty out

3810
02:56:00,670 --> 02:55:57,199
of control it always is and then on

3811
02:56:03,790 --> 02:56:00,680
Wednesday night for the first time here

3812
02:56:06,910 --> 02:56:03,800
on fade to black it is the cue army

3813
02:56:08,800 --> 02:56:06,920
we've got in the matrix and shady groove

3814
02:56:11,170 --> 02:56:08,810
here I know you've got questions I've

3815
02:56:15,030 --> 02:56:11,180
got questions we're gonna do all of that

3816
02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:15,040
on Wednesday night Thursday is our

3817
02:56:22,960 --> 02:56:18,890
1,000th show 1000 we got here I don't

3818
02:56:26,139 --> 02:56:22,970
know how we did but we made it 1000 1000

3819
02:56:28,620 --> 02:56:26,149
shows and it falls on a fader night on

3820
02:56:32,710 --> 02:56:28,630
Thursday night and then we head down to

3821
02:56:34,990 --> 02:56:32,720
context to the conscious life Expo with

3822
02:56:36,880 --> 02:56:35,000
the LAX Hilton we'll see everybody down

3823
02:56:40,120 --> 02:56:36,890
there for that and until then I'll see

3824
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:40,130
everybody here tomorrow night with mr.

3825
02:56:44,229 --> 02:56:43,010
David Icke this is fade to black I am

3826
02:56:47,469 --> 02:56:44,239
your host Jimmy Church great

3827
02:56:50,380 --> 02:56:47,479
conversation tonight with Richard again

3828
02:56:52,660 --> 02:56:50,390
follow richard on twitter at rich Dolan

3829
02:56:54,460 --> 02:56:52,670
fade to black cigs ecute of producer is

3830
02:56:56,830 --> 02:56:54,470
ritika Murray on shows produced by Hill

3831
02:56:59,260 --> 02:56:56,840
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3832
02:57:02,110 --> 02:56:59,270
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3833
02:57:05,019 --> 02:57:02,120
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3834
02:57:08,320 --> 02:57:05,029
aldrich intros space boys space boy

3835
02:57:13,229 --> 02:57:08,330
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3836
02:57:18,490 --> 02:57:16,330
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3837
02:57:19,479 --> 02:57:18,500
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3838
02:57:21,920 --> 02:57:19,489
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3839
02:57:23,139 --> 02:57:21,930
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3840
02:57:25,519 --> 02:57:23,149
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3841
02:57:27,170 --> 02:57:25,529
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3842
02:57:29,269 --> 02:57:27,180
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3843
02:57:31,010 --> 02:57:29,279
your host Jimmy Church until tomorrow

3844
02:57:33,679 --> 02:57:31,020
night David Icke right here on fade to

3845
02:57:40,310 --> 02:57:33,689
black I want everybody to be safe

3846
02:57:43,110 --> 02:57:40,510
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3847
02:58:02,170 --> 02:57:43,120
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